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what's up everybody

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he's he's there he's somewhere oh wait I

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think hold on

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[Laughter]

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hold on I gotta change my microphone I

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think that's what's up incredible well

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welcome to calling all beings everybody

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happy uh what day is it Tuesday Tuesday

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that's right Tuesday happy Tuesday hope

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everyone's doing well it's great to be

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with you this week we've got our

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illustrious co-host here DJ uh doing a

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little costume wardrobe change she'll be

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back with us in a moment and the uh

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wonderful and amazing and and sonerous

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met how are you I'm good Nathan how are

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you I'm good man it's uh it's a far side

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chat night which I love uh the weather

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outside is amazing at least it is where

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I am so it's been a great day and

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looking forward to an amazing

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conversation yeah me too I've been

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looking uh forward to this one all day

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for sure

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um I'm glad DJ is doing a wardrobe

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change as opposed to a wardrobe

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malfunction yes uh much better

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and uh yeah just uh waiting to get

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started I think you know for the sake of

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our audience uh it's important that he

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be properly dressed for the occasion so

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typically yes preferably yes I know

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maybe we'll get a request for a show

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like that at some point and I don't know

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you know he might be willing to oblige

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we'll see

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um we got some great guests tonight Matt

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while we're working on DJ's uh technical

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stuff I want to go ahead and get get

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them on stage and get this conversation

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started because I'm really excited to

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jump in so we've got Science Bob and

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Lala bright two amazing people in the

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UFO community that I think most people

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are familiar with and and know and have

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interacted with in some degree on

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Twitter but we've also been following

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along with both the growth of their

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relationship and the experiences that

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they've been sharing and no folks have a

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lot of questions about what they're

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seeing and hearing and interacting with

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so hopefully we're going to get into

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some of that today but I know now that

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he's back he will want to do his

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signature introduction so DJ welcome

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back

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and uh once you once you do what you do

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best and bring these folks on to a warm

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down with the love couple somebody we

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admire and respect a

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ph-d-o-w-g from Brown University put

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your hands together for Science Bob and

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can I get it amen

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what is up brother and sister

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we are wait you know what I made the

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rookie error brother Bob I had I was

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looking at Nathan's

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um YouTube uh that he put up because he

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always writes stuff about the guest and

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in doing so I had double audio coming in

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and the timing was off so rookie mistake

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I hope you'll forgive that and not send

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me to uh uh you know to the Death Eaters

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I guess what they would do in Harry

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Potter it's a medial podcaster school

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that's what I'm sucking the life out of

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you right now

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and and then am I going to Mordor right

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we're going into them

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I love it man you guys are gonna be all

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kinds of fun I'm gonna I'm gonna reopen

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my notes here that when I restarted the

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computer for fear to clear out any of

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the the Gremlins that may have been

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inside uh and you know

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really when I I think about uh you too

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and I see the uh the vibrant colors that

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you posted it resonates with me and the

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co-conspirator of this joint that you

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see at the bottom of the screen money

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Nathan and it's just there's so much

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love that you're putting out to the

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universe and I think it's just

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indicative of the love between you two

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and it's very very inspiring so uh thank

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you for posting that stuff Bob I I I see

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it and uh and it makes me feel good you

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know it's like Nathan's AI artwork that

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says all these colors so thank you well

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I'm inspired by

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so Lala bright this is the UFO Community

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does not know of her art ability but

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they will shortly so look she she does

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all sorts of things but in the but let

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me brag about one because I love to brag

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on she's a face painter now a lot of

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people don't know what that is but it's

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you know really truly fancy artwork

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makeup but Lyle O'Brien has done face

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twice Jesus she's a serious artist does

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watercolor acrylic oil whatever and

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people will get to know that side of her

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I'm gonna say this Lala you have made a

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podcast host here who needs some paint

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on his damn face to cover up what's

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happening and then maybe I won't have to

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wear these glasses okay

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all right so just get some brushes you

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can work some Miracles man add some

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waves yeah exactly yeah actually

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actually I'm 110 years old and she put

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damn I'm gonna tell you what man then

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she definitely needs to go to work on

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this grill right now

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but um but yeah you got to meet uh money

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Nathan and our new one of our newest

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additions to cab matnap uh Bigfoot

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researcher out of Oklahoma we're

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extremely happy and proud to have him

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join the team and Debs who you know

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should be joining us later this girl

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this podcast to explain to you

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the importance of her to us don't you

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want to say that Deb shocked he's going

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oh my God I love her yeah yeah Deb is

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Deb is so dope man so talk about

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something she's done for you if you

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would just anything she's magical I

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swear every time I speak with her

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paranormal happens and they love her and

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and she's the sweetest you could like

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rob a bank and she'd be like okay but

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nobody got hurt right I actually have

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and she was really great about it yeah

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she she did she did our regression so in

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my regression uh I'm laying on the bed

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all hypnotized and stuff talking some

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crazy stuff which I've Loved uh and

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outside we have these security cameras

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and they were disabled because it was

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daytime well a security camera came home

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and recorded a clear

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uh invisible Predator walking across our

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totally clear

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I mean I mean like the Rippling moves

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and you could see that it was a humanoid

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and it walked across the deck but you

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couldn't see me see it you could see the

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background through it wiggling you can

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see its shape I'm talking exit stage

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left if I see that that's all I got to

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say yeah oh it was long after it was

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gone and not there but it was on the

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video recorded I have a feeling though

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you're talking about a different Deb

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than our Deb our Deb met you at the

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Symposium oh I'm sorry

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no this lady is

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yeah yeah and and uh she's been with us

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she has her own show called Deb's data

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dojo and she's been with us you know

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almost since the beginning we probably

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were about five episodes in by the time

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well you know okay it's okay because I

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you as the person you described sounds a

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lot like the dev that we know so we we

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felt like it was right on the money not

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on a Monday night

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okay so covered for me brother yeah no

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worries no worries quick story about Deb

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before I asked you the before I have you

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participate in our cab uh study of UFO

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phds that these two know that we're

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doing but so Deb goes to a restaurant

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with her family there in in Baltimore

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area and the waiter tells her that it's

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an older restaurant that is haunted and

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he goes yeah we have a problem with a

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haunting in the bathroom upstairs Deb

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being Deb is like UPS I got this man you

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know Little Don Knotts pull up on the

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trousers I'm gonna go upstairs and

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handle this

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goes upstairs goes in the bathroom

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the door swings closed on it on its own

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and she's like okay I'm out

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investigation over I'm going back to my

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stand outside the building

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I see this stuff going on here and

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here's what I think it is let me see if

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I can handle this and she will go in or

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she won't based on what she sees but uh

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Spirits are spirits they're not whether

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they're ET or a ghost she'll let her

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tell you she she talks to all of them

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I I don't I can't Amy Allen you know

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people I don't that more people don't

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know her the stuff she does is amazing

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and and how she's able to gather the

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entire history on her property and the

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people in it while not having gone to

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you know City Hall and pulled the

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records is pretty amazing anybody out

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there Amy Allen I can't remember the

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name of that show on Travel Channel dead

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file she's amazing her and her partner

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um let's get into our Steve yeah

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that does all the stuff that confirms

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what she sees

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you know Bob if only you were a little

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more on your game this guy is no

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information Nathan I mean what are we

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doing here all right so

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all right so um we have this study that

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cab is doing and it was based on an

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innocuous question to Dr Jeff [\h__\h]

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which then went to Dr Sean s Bjorn

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hargens which then went to Dr Gary Nolan

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and now to Dr Bob Science Bob McGuire so

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well that's that's August company and I

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know all of them and they know me so

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let's go I hope I don't embarrass them

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oh not at all I don't think you can in

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this one

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um so the question is about your

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preference in potato chips and we're

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trying to see we're Gathering data Trend

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data on the potato chip preferences of

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UFO phds so so we're going to give you a

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couple of choices here

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are you a sea salt only chip either

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Ridge or not ridged chips are you a

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seasoned chip person that would be b or

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are you C

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uh are you sort of omni chip or what did

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one of our our guests called it polychip

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so uh what is your preference in potato

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chip Science Bob C polychip

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oh my goodness Nathan

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should we release the data or do you

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think we need to have this peer reviewed

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and I I mean we uh this is getting

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pretty compelling djm

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I'm uh three for three on the potato

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chip well you have there is there is an

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outlier doctor there is this in this

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cohort

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you know you could guess who it might be

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but uh it I think should we withhold

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until we get to Dr pasoka maybe we

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should maybe we should okay for our

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final findings but so far we've got some

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pretty strong

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correlative evidence to look at here

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this is big I mean Bob is there is there

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I just want to make sure because I I

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like a lot of chips too okay I'm a big

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chip fan but is there a chip you

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wouldn't eat because like for me I and

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I'll I'll go out there I'll put myself

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out there I don't like the salt and

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vinegar I know that's controversial some

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people love them the salt and vinegar

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chips but I eat barbecue I eat Charles

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Chips I eat all flavored chips dill

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pickle chips

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wow he this is a true poly chip it's

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true he is polyamorous when it comes to

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chips I love it yeah so there's no

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question polychiperous

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there we go nailed it really be careful

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of that word polyamorous I do not want

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to get home

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yeah I said I qualified it Bob when it

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comes to chips

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you love you love multiple types of

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chips that's fair all right

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um I'm gonna get to my first serious

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question I know you thought that the

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potato chip one was serious Bob but it

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actually wasn't uh that was our um uh

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that was our our our opening Icebreaker

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um so anyway anyway now to all right I'm

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gonna get serious now here I go Nathan

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mm-hmm

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okay so uh Bob what I'm curious about

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having listened to you again it was very

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um inspiring to hear

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um I I don't know I I mean I had heard

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you before you uh you you met Lala and

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after and I'm curious in what ways

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has the framework through which you view

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or study the phenomenon shifted as a

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result of your meeting and becoming

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acquainted with Lala Okay so

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that's that's really I I'll just go

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through the story and you you guys can

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tell me to cut off or say oh that's

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enough but anyway let's discuss the

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entire story is interesting

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so uh I'm gonna jump to the beginning of

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my serious interaction with paranormal

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and UFOs was me requesting in 2019 to go

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visit Chris Bledsoe so I went and

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visited Chris and I left there with a

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hitchhiker we saw UFOs orbs Critters uh

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flash votes in the air purple auras and

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I got photos all of all the stuff in

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videos so Chris Chris did something the

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person who went with me came home uh

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they had right side weakness and almost

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drove their foot from a stroke and two

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weeks later after The Hitchhiker did a

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number on us and convinced us they were

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there uh uh the person was healed to the

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point where the neurosurgeon released

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them and told them they did not need to

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go back because they couldn't even find

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the lesions

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so the stories of Chris Bledsoe doing

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the healing I have personally

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experienced okay so well I did a I did a

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UFO con slide Deck with Chris for his

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first serious Public Presentation of the

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data that videos the audio the other

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stuff the people who's met the people

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have been there at ufocon 2020. at

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ufocon in 2020 I met Dave Scott

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and Dave Scott invited me to be on his

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spaced out radio show and he gave me the

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name Science Bob

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so wow oh yeah so here we let's jump

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forward to 2020 uh 2022

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A lot's happened but anyway 2022 and

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um Lala has seen me on the Science Bob

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and other things on spaced out radio so

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she and I became Facebook friends it was

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no big deal otherwise he had a like here

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hit a like there that's interesting okay

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so so destiniel so uh in April of last

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year my mother passed but before my

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mother passed Lala told me hey when your

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mother passes come back and I'll give

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you a reading

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and I went oh okay so she was nice but

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I'm making it short so we don't take all

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night okay so uh the the a Deb so uh the

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the uh the I went over to visit my

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mother and while I was there they had

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they invoked her Advanced Medical

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directive and put her on hospice and we

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knew it was coming to an end I'm going

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wow this woman I just met on Facebook

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told me my mother was going to pass and

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here it is happening so anyway she was

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very nice about it but that but that's

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the suggested it okay so while I was

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there I watched my mother go really

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really badly off into a coma and then

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pop off away and talk to our dead

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relatives and then go back into the a

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coma and pass

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okay Solomon now I'm really going to

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talk to Lala so we went through the

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funeral all those stuff I finally make

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it back home I get on uh our

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communication Channel she and I had

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which is the Facebook messenger and we

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start I told her okay I want the reading

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it's because I'm now quite curious

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so she got on and within moments

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I had to kind of confirmed in my head

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okay she really is talking to my mother

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so it's clear and her that she was

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buoyed by the fact that I thought she

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was talking my mother so then the pace

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picked up

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and then after her confidence grows it

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turns into lightning speed so she

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quickly told me five or six things I

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can't remember which I have a transcript

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so I could go a little bit anyway five

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five things which I caught five my

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mother knew and I knew but no one else

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she's getting it out of my brain okay so

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it's like she and my she and or my

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mother heard me think this because the

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next few things my mother told me

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I didn't know

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none of my siblings knew

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but between the five of us we confirmed

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all of them with our friends and

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relatives

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okay so it was like wow

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okay so I'm kind of emotional because my

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mother just passed and then

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um she stops and says hey there's this

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little five foot two feisty lady come up

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here button in she's got curly brown

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hair with red highlights and I she has

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this thick southern accent and I can't

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even understand her but I keep hearing

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his word and I don't understand what it

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is

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that's when I lost it

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truly lost it I mean I was like beside

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myself

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when I was one year old my grandmother

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would gradually keep me and she would

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call me sweetie and I wasn't talking too

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well so I called her Tweety and that's

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the name my grandmother had for all

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grandkids until she passed she was doing

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me to all of us there is no way she knew

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this I mean it's just no way and she

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could have found out my grandmother's

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name was Lois McGuire there's no way she

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could have found out that I called her

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Tweety this is no way and she did that

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since the 1980s okay so that was before

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she was born

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decent so anyway

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um

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uh oh dear I'm not supposed to tell you

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how old you are am I yeah

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it reminds me of fresh freshman year of

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high school

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so yeah yeah so uh

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so we we start talking about all sorts

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of paranormal

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and she starts telling me about some of

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her quote dreams and the dreams I

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realized are recovering memories of her

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alien abductions and so I interact with

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her I don't want to tell all these

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stories I want her to tell somebody's

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story but anyway we get we continue to

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grow in our talking relationship and I

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went and met her so we established a

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business which is right now in highest

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but we're going to bring it back

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okay so anyway we started some business

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and so we started a relationship and now

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we lived we live together in Maryland I

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sold my house in Alabama and moved to

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Maryland

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it's beautiful it really it really is I

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mean you could see it you could feel it

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I could feel it and listening to you

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guys on other podcasts and you're on a

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podcast that loves love because we are

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co-conspirators and positivity on this

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joint so watch yourself hurt why don't

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you let her tell about some of the stuff

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that happened here Paul let me let me

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refocus the question because the

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question we didn't get to the question

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was basically how you viewed the

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phenomenon prior to meeting her and how

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you viewed it now were you so in other

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words if I were to just expound upon

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that were you more nuts and bolts were

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you you know were you more scientific

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and now looking into the more

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consciousness-based aspects that that

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was sort of the where I was going with

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that I drove her absolutely crazy

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the first part of our relationship

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trying to get her to get the aliens to

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tell me how the craft work

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and

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hey did you tell him the dilithium

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crystals Lala did you

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you know

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what I was told told John was

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has to work on ego before they would say

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anything like that what

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PhD with ego come on that's not true

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okay as they would any of us I'm sure

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especially me it's gone from me wanting

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nuts and bolts craft

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to in a year me and knowing I don't care

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about the nuts and bolts crap I don't

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care at all

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because it's all about Consciousness we

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are all energy

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and the energy takes different forms E

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equals m c squared so the energy can be

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converted into mass and the mass can

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take different forms and so all the

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things we see fly in the sky all of us

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here all the table I'm sitting out in a

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chair I'm on it's all mass and energy

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and all of it's related and

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Consciousness is the thing that binds

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the universe together that is a rapid

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change from a applied mathematician with

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a PhD who minored in physics okay I'm

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just saying this is a major change hey

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Bob this is the problem is right now I

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have too much mass and not enough energy

525
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so if I could somehow convert one into

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the other I think we'd be in business

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but I have to turn you guys over

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to the capable hands of my

529
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co-conspirator in this joint known as

530
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calling all beings money Nathan okay yes

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great to talk with you guys

532
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um Lala I would love for you to talk a

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little bit about because not as many

534
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folks are familiar with the things that

535
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,320
you do and Bob did a great job

536
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explaining some of your amazing skill

537
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and I was wondering how did that happen

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for you is it something you've had your

539
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entire life has this uh developed more

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over time what would you say are the

541
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benefits but also maybe some of the

542
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downsides of having the uh the

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mediumship ability so I was born with it

544
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and my dad had it too he was uh he did

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Reiki and

546
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:30,179
um other things like that so he tried to

547
00:24:37,789 --> 00:24:33,840
help me along the way but my mom was

548
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:37,799
wanting me to be you know normal so I

549
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,360
would kind of push it away for a long

550
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:42,000
time and you know bullying and all that

551
00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:43,200
stuff

552
00:24:51,049 --> 00:24:44,940
but

553
00:24:53,710 --> 00:24:51,059
I guess I it got more strong when I

554
00:24:57,169 --> 00:24:53,720
decided not to hide from it anymore

555
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:57,179
so a few years ago I lost my parents and

556
00:25:02,630 --> 00:24:58,400
boyfriend

557
00:25:04,909 --> 00:25:02,640
and I hated how it felt and I wanted to

558
00:25:07,850 --> 00:25:04,919
help other people feel better

559
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,860
and that's how I found Bob the spirits

560
00:25:12,590 --> 00:25:09,600
kind of find me

561
00:25:15,529 --> 00:25:12,600
to talk to the person because I'm super

562
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:15,539
shy and I wouldn't normally do that but

563
00:25:18,649 --> 00:25:17,159
they're just like okay this person say

564
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:18,659
this so I'm like I'm sorry to sound

565
00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:21,120
weird but I have a message for you you

566
00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:21,900
know

567
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:23,940
but yeah it's interesting and I didn't

568
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:27,360
know I was talking to other beings until

569
00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:30,000
I met Bob because I knew that the

570
00:25:35,210 --> 00:25:32,580
spirits felt different I knew that the

571
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:35,220
aliens felt different but I didn't know

572
00:25:41,149 --> 00:25:38,640
why there are more business and ghosts

573
00:25:43,789 --> 00:25:41,159
people Spirits are very emotional

574
00:25:46,010 --> 00:25:43,799
they're the same you know

575
00:25:47,090 --> 00:25:46,020
I I would like for you to expand on that

576
00:25:50,029 --> 00:25:47,100
a little bit because I've heard others

577
00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:50,039
say something similar that human emotion

578
00:25:55,730 --> 00:25:53,460
is uh in some ways alien to the

579
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:55,740
non-human intelligences that there's

580
00:26:01,130 --> 00:25:58,559
something about our ability to emote and

581
00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:01,140
feel that they don't quite understand so

582
00:26:05,090 --> 00:26:02,940
what what's it like interacting with an

583
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:05,100
entity that just doesn't quite get how

584
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:06,559
we feel about things

585
00:26:12,649 --> 00:26:10,320
so they understand and cater to our

586
00:26:16,490 --> 00:26:12,659
feelings but they just can't show it

587
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:16,500
they do it in ways of being kind or or

588
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:20,640
helpful but they don't get upset like us

589
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:23,039
and things like that

590
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:24,720
gotcha

591
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,840
um are they uh and do you have instances

592
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:29,520
where you're interacting with both

593
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,159
humans and alien intelligence at the

594
00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:34,320
same time or they kind of is it sort of

595
00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:36,840
like a chorus of voices there what's

596
00:26:53,810 --> 00:26:49,810
it and then I'll come back to an alien

597
00:26:55,970 --> 00:26:53,820
it it kind of opens doors each time to

598
00:26:58,490 --> 00:26:55,980
other beings it's really interesting

599
00:27:00,590 --> 00:26:58,500
actually that sounds fascinating and the

600
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:00,600
uh I've heard too that some people can

601
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,500
have kind of uh different energetic

602
00:27:07,730 --> 00:27:06,000
lineages may be the right way to

603
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,740
describe it so like some people have

604
00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:10,080
through their incarnations for example

605
00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:12,360
have you know human histories and then

606
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,720
some have maybe more alien histories do

607
00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:17,279
you find that to be true in your

608
00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:18,659
experience

609
00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:21,720
I I know that's true I haven't met

610
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:23,820
anyone yet that I read that from but

611
00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:26,880
that is that is correct

612
00:27:31,010 --> 00:27:29,159
we've done we were different being well

613
00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:31,020
I mean I think people are hybrids I've

614
00:27:38,510 --> 00:27:34,620
I've met hybrids but

615
00:27:40,970 --> 00:27:38,520
you know I think that we could uh she

616
00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:40,980
thinks she's a hybrid I know I'm

617
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,620
different yeah I just am I I'm O

618
00:27:48,049 --> 00:27:45,360
Negative I think there's a thing to that

619
00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:48,059
too I don't know what nobody has an

620
00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:50,940
answer to the O Negative not one person

621
00:27:55,310 --> 00:27:53,100
and I find that interesting we know

622
00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:55,320
everything else in the world but for

623
00:28:00,529 --> 00:27:57,419
some reason we can't figure that out

624
00:28:02,269 --> 00:28:00,539
and it's just it makes sense that

625
00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:02,279
they're I'm a little different and she's

626
00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:04,580
she's back descent

627
00:28:10,430 --> 00:28:08,279
basket oh wow like uh over in uh Spain

628
00:28:12,049 --> 00:28:10,440
where all of them are all negative and

629
00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:12,059
their genetics doesn't fit with anybody

630
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:15,480
else's fascinating and by the way Nathan

631
00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:17,520
my energy lineage runs from Red Bull

632
00:28:22,730 --> 00:28:20,700
directly to me yeah and then it results

633
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:22,740
in output that's right so anyway yeah

634
00:28:27,649 --> 00:28:25,080
yeah I mean we gotta we gotta pass it

635
00:28:29,330 --> 00:28:27,659
over to Deb I know she's uh she has she

636
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:29,340
got here as fast as she is humanly

637
00:28:33,169 --> 00:28:31,200
possible I'm sure that there are people

638
00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:33,179
on the highway we're just pull over if

639
00:28:37,210 --> 00:28:35,340
his dad was just get out of my way

640
00:28:40,370 --> 00:28:37,220
exactly

641
00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:40,380
what you got I'm I'm sad because I

642
00:28:48,049 --> 00:28:44,460
missed the chip answer but I'm here so

643
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:48,059
um I wanted to ask because both of you

644
00:28:52,010 --> 00:28:50,100
receive information

645
00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:52,020
um and I know that you know Bob you've

646
00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:54,419
said it's downloads for you and you have

647
00:28:57,950 --> 00:28:56,460
different information from the spirits

648
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:57,960
although so I was wondering if you could

649
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,000
do like have you done a comparison about

650
00:29:03,529 --> 00:29:02,159
how you guys are receiving

651
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:03,539
um have you talked about what that's

652
00:29:08,210 --> 00:29:05,760
like for you

653
00:29:10,010 --> 00:29:08,220
um and can you explain that to people

654
00:29:11,810 --> 00:29:10,020
I'm just telling you all of a sudden I

655
00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:11,820
get a thought in my head and I don't

656
00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:14,220
have a clue where it came from and it's

657
00:29:19,970 --> 00:29:16,620
almost always something technical but it

658
00:29:21,889 --> 00:29:19,980
can be something else it just just so

659
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:21,899
your audience can get a kind of

660
00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:23,039
grounding

661
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:25,380
this is not about what I've done but I'm

662
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,100
going to say how this pertains it I got

663
00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:32,640
messages in my head that told me how to

664
00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:35,820
make Federated Wireless work and that's

665
00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:38,460
the company I found I got a message in

666
00:29:44,510 --> 00:29:41,460
my head three years later that was the

667
00:29:46,130 --> 00:29:44,520
secrets that turned into Hawkeye 360.

668
00:29:48,649 --> 00:29:46,140
both of those are successful

669
00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:48,659
corporations that I founded and the

670
00:29:53,810 --> 00:29:50,760
intellectual property which people can

671
00:29:55,490 --> 00:29:53,820
go look up my patents and see that there

672
00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:55,500
that the patents are real and they have

673
00:30:01,330 --> 00:29:58,380
my name on them those were all downloads

674
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:01,340
but I have no clue where they come from

675
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:04,980
they're just like something

676
00:30:09,049 --> 00:30:06,840
puts a hole in my head and pours

677
00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:09,059
something in and then closes it and all

678
00:30:11,930 --> 00:30:10,380
of a sudden it's there and I have no

679
00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:11,940
idea where it came from because nothing

680
00:30:16,370 --> 00:30:14,159
comes before or after that makes any

681
00:30:18,889 --> 00:30:16,380
sense it's just all of a sudden there

682
00:30:21,769 --> 00:30:18,899
nice wow it's completely different so

683
00:30:25,310 --> 00:30:23,570
that's something I'd like to have is I

684
00:30:27,649 --> 00:30:25,320
have property but I don't have the

685
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:27,659
intellectual and property together you

686
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,240
know what I mean Nathan that's what I'm

687
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:32,159
yeah I need to be able

688
00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:35,760
all right let's get let's get Matt nap

689
00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:44,269
why do you guys oh

690
00:30:49,610 --> 00:30:48,360
do this don't you know okay yes Lala

691
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:49,620
needs to answer

692
00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:52,080
I I want to hear her answer before I

693
00:30:57,169 --> 00:30:55,260
proceed oh did I miss it did okay I

694
00:30:59,149 --> 00:30:57,179
apologize

695
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,159
um thank you I just

696
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:01,919
I just get a feeling and it's a certain

697
00:31:07,610 --> 00:31:04,260
feeling where I don't there's no

698
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:07,620
question it's just a knowing and a

699
00:31:11,389 --> 00:31:09,120
little bit of a push

700
00:31:13,130 --> 00:31:11,399
and and that's how I get it it's because

701
00:31:15,409 --> 00:31:13,140
usually I'm wishy-washy like I don't

702
00:31:17,690 --> 00:31:15,419
know what to do you know but this is

703
00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:17,700
very direct yeah

704
00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:21,059
she looks up to the right like this like

705
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:23,520
this and I know she's conversing with

706
00:31:27,889 --> 00:31:25,679
the being they send pictures words music

707
00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:27,899
whatever yeah

708
00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:30,299
is there an electrical pulse feeling not

709
00:31:36,590 --> 00:31:32,220
and I don't mean that like being shocked

710
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:36,600
but is there sort of a a hum or um a

711
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:38,880
vibration or something that's associated

712
00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:41,279
with both of you when you receive these

713
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:43,380
I I

714
00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:52,490
they felt it that's what it feels like

715
00:31:58,610 --> 00:31:55,260
and a lot of times they either sound

716
00:32:02,149 --> 00:31:58,620
like they're a radio frequency changing

717
00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:02,159
Channel or like a high-pitched kind of

718
00:32:05,690 --> 00:32:04,200
thing it all depends on the being

719
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:05,700
actually

720
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:08,640
she did after the reading for me she had

721
00:32:18,289 --> 00:32:15,830
really you and yeah she's like Amy Allen

722
00:32:21,049 --> 00:32:18,299
if she's a physical medium

723
00:32:27,529 --> 00:32:21,059
I got a hernia after during a reading

724
00:32:33,549 --> 00:32:29,330
sweat pouring down my face and I don't

725
00:32:36,529 --> 00:32:33,559
sweat it was I had to learn

726
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:36,539
to not allow that it's okay to take

727
00:32:40,970 --> 00:32:38,159
information but it's not okay for me to

728
00:32:43,070 --> 00:32:40,980
take it on she doesn't know she doesn't

729
00:32:45,169 --> 00:32:43,080
channel for that reason yeah yeah

730
00:32:46,669 --> 00:32:45,179
because then you'll inherit whatever

731
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:46,679
that person's

732
00:32:51,649 --> 00:32:49,620
Afflicted with right yeah

733
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,659
and so I apologize I didn't mean to step

734
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:53,760
on Lala's answer I didn't realize that

735
00:32:59,450 --> 00:32:56,399
uh I didn't compute that it was so but

736
00:33:02,210 --> 00:32:59,460
uh Matt can we go to you now yeah yeah

737
00:33:08,750 --> 00:33:04,970
um so whenever you uh

738
00:33:09,710 --> 00:33:08,760
communicate with human Spirits how it's

739
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:09,720
different

740
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:12,480
comparatively to uh communicating with

741
00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:15,360
aliens are you communicating with alien

742
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:18,299
Spirits or are the aliens still alive

743
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:20,399
and just communicating the same way as

744
00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:23,519
Spirits yeah they're alive but they can

745
00:33:28,250 --> 00:33:25,380
communicate the same way it's a

746
00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:31,190
have you encountered the spirit of an

747
00:33:38,990 --> 00:33:32,820
alien

748
00:33:43,610 --> 00:33:41,330
know every couple weeks we have a new

749
00:33:45,649 --> 00:33:43,620
being show up outside our house on

750
00:33:47,630 --> 00:33:45,659
camera and you can see the evidence in

751
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:47,640
our evidence database so these Critters

752
00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:51,120
but these these entities in standing in

753
00:33:55,789 --> 00:33:53,100
front of our yard and videos of them

754
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:55,799
walking yeah maybe we did that's

755
00:33:59,149 --> 00:33:57,360
something to look into I didn't even

756
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:59,159
think of that I just assumed because

757
00:34:04,009 --> 00:34:00,720
they were kind of like in the same

758
00:34:06,590 --> 00:34:04,019
frequency right that they didn't die and

759
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,600
become ghosts but I don't know

760
00:34:12,829 --> 00:34:08,879
is is it fair they're using the same

761
00:34:16,609 --> 00:34:12,839
access point to you that the nhi and the

762
00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:16,619
spirit of a former human is using the

763
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,560
same access point to reach you is what I

764
00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:21,599
know Nathan said that Debs has said that

765
00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:23,940
Matt I'm I'm not sure if we've actually

766
00:34:30,649 --> 00:34:25,560
had that discussion but we don't know

767
00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:32,629
paranormal experiences keeping that door

768
00:34:37,129 --> 00:34:35,580
shut for a while all I know is you know

769
00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:37,139
there's this you're talking about

770
00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:40,740
electrical energies DJ and uh

771
00:34:46,129 --> 00:34:43,980
if you've ever been around uh guitars

772
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:46,139
electric guitars and amplifiers how

773
00:34:52,010 --> 00:34:48,720
whenever you plug in a guitar cable and

774
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:52,020
it grounds out on the jack for a second

775
00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:52,800
um

776
00:34:58,130 --> 00:34:55,260
let's just say I used to hear that sound

777
00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:58,140
quite often really loud enough that it

778
00:35:04,130 --> 00:35:01,859
would kind of jolt me uh

779
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,140
and and I've also heard like explosive

780
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:06,720
like electrical explosive sounds

781
00:35:12,589 --> 00:35:08,760
uh in my home

782
00:35:15,050 --> 00:35:12,599
at different times so so I can relate to

783
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:15,060
the electrical pulses and energies

784
00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:18,420
shifting so we had we had the first

785
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,040
thing we got when we moved to this house

786
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,320
was Poltergeist activity things would

787
00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:24,240
get lifted up and moon wall would be

788
00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:27,000
thumped lights would go on and off so we

789
00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:28,260
got a camera

790
00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:31,260
and the camera the cameras and the

791
00:35:35,710 --> 00:35:33,720
camera that was in the front hall was in

792
00:35:38,329 --> 00:35:35,720
night mode because the lights were out

793
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:38,339
and in the middle of the night while we

794
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:41,400
were asleep the light turned on it

795
00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:42,720
wasn't us

796
00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:45,380
a kind of shadowy thing

797
00:35:50,210 --> 00:35:48,900
shimmered into the camera view and all

798
00:35:53,569 --> 00:35:50,220
of a sudden

799
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:53,579
uh the microphone picks up on the

800
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:54,720
security camera

801
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:57,599
a hello Zander

802
00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:00,480
and Xander is my son's name and it

803
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,300
sounded like my boyfriend his father had

804
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:05,760
passed uh two years ago so

805
00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:09,119
so he he came to the household you think

806
00:36:15,710 --> 00:36:12,900
and he's here he's here wow

807
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:15,720
I had his picture and a drawer in the

808
00:36:21,710 --> 00:36:18,720
bedroom he started shaking it to where

809
00:36:23,569 --> 00:36:21,720
it sounded like he was banging and so I

810
00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:23,579
took the picture up and I placed it on

811
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:26,280
top it is now in a place of honor in our

812
00:36:29,810 --> 00:36:29,040
bedroom yeah again hasn't happened again

813
00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:29,820
yeah

814
00:36:38,510 --> 00:36:34,980
part to react to that situation and I

815
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,520
did see the the uh and I we didn't prep

816
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,320
to you know bring some stuff but we saw

817
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,240
what you showed Grant Cameron some

818
00:36:46,670 --> 00:36:45,119
amazing videos and first of all Bob is

819
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,680
it bad that when you show the amazing

820
00:36:50,270 --> 00:36:48,480
orb video in the room the first thing I

821
00:36:54,250 --> 00:36:50,280
noticed was the crown molding I don't

822
00:36:58,910 --> 00:36:54,260
know if Nathan noticed the same thing

823
00:37:01,849 --> 00:36:58,920
all that notices that the room the the

824
00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:01,859
original owner here was Chinese so this

825
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:04,920
this this master bedroom is as feng shui

826
00:37:09,770 --> 00:37:07,440
as it can possibly be and so you have

827
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:09,780
the Octagon the ceiling the bed points

828
00:37:13,849 --> 00:37:11,940
the correct direction I mean every bit

829
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,859
of that stuff she must really be

830
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:15,680
superstitious

831
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,260
feng shui and there's a portal right

832
00:37:24,849 --> 00:37:21,599
behind our head on the wall there really

833
00:37:28,190 --> 00:37:24,859
is I mean there's a what

834
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:28,200
go in and out on the wall

835
00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:36,349
every day every night people think it's

836
00:37:41,089 --> 00:37:39,060
weird we we video our bedroom and I

837
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:41,099
while we sleep but we do because I don't

838
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:43,020
want any I don't want to miss this we

839
00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:45,780
don't mind showing it hell no that orb

840
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:47,400
was that the size of a it looked like

841
00:37:53,150 --> 00:37:51,119
the size of a baseball or a tennis ball

842
00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:53,160
Nathan had you seen that

843
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:55,500
yeah I did I mean I just sometimes I was

844
00:37:58,730 --> 00:37:56,880
trying to get my head around all the

845
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,740
activity that's happening and yeah and

846
00:38:03,010 --> 00:37:59,760
how delighted you are that it's

847
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,020
happening in your personal space

848
00:38:08,210 --> 00:38:06,000
Matt what is going on here well I mean

849
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:08,220
he is polychiperous that's true that's

850
00:38:12,349 --> 00:38:09,839
what it is it's the potato chip thing

851
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:12,359
yeah that's why he's able to deal with

852
00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:15,300
it so what we have to do maybe if Lala

853
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:17,640
could get Matt to change his preference

854
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:20,880
in potato chips then the Paranormal

855
00:38:25,490 --> 00:38:23,520
Activity that's bothered him May cease

856
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:25,500
to bother him so we we actually we have

857
00:38:31,849 --> 00:38:29,760
something we can work on uh so I wanted

858
00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:31,859
to launch into the fireside chat and

859
00:38:35,390 --> 00:38:33,660
then after we get into the part where

860
00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:35,400
everyone throws the topic on the table

861
00:38:39,530 --> 00:38:37,560
we can because I have another question

862
00:38:42,050 --> 00:38:39,540
I'm sure everybody in the panel has

863
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:42,060
another question for you but we wanted

864
00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:46,079
to uh start with uh either uh Lala or

865
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:49,020
Bob whomever and throw a topic out there

866
00:38:54,410 --> 00:38:52,140
and everyone here around the table will

867
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,420
react to it and then uh I'll go after

868
00:39:02,030 --> 00:38:56,640
whichever uh YouTube and then we'll just

869
00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:04,930
go for it

870
00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:10,500
yeah oh okay go ahead oh my God pick

871
00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:12,420
something I mean you've had so many

872
00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:14,520
things happen describe how you capture

873
00:39:21,770 --> 00:39:17,700
the big the craft oh but what she's

874
00:39:23,450 --> 00:39:21,780
amazing well what what this is this is

875
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:23,460
what you guys will do is you guys will

876
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,960
throw a topic out there and everyone

877
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:26,160
will

878
00:39:31,490 --> 00:39:28,260
So you you're almost like you're asking

879
00:39:33,410 --> 00:39:31,500
a question I see see what I mean and

880
00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:33,420
then everybody will react to that but we

881
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,700
will like I said after we go through go

882
00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:37,680
around the horn we'll get into because I

883
00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:39,300
know we all have more

884
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:46,849
um

885
00:39:53,050 --> 00:39:50,160
all right so I'll start off yes uh I'm

886
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:53,060
from the Hudson Valley and it was about

887
00:39:58,370 --> 00:39:56,640
in the 80s uh so it was right after

888
00:40:00,530 --> 00:39:58,380
freshman year it's ironic we were

889
00:40:01,990 --> 00:40:00,540
talking about freshman year so between

890
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,000
freshman year

891
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:04,800
uh at the beginning of sophomore year so

892
00:40:11,329 --> 00:40:07,320
it might have been 82 and

893
00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:11,339
um I I did a friend and I saw one uh but

894
00:40:15,650 --> 00:40:12,900
it was not

895
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:15,660
it didn't go over our head so it was we

896
00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:19,200
saw it above the tree line moving away

897
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:21,660
um from us ironically over towards

898
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,280
Yorktown Heights those of you guys who

899
00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:24,960
have heard the stories about you know

900
00:40:28,609 --> 00:40:26,940
Yorktown Heights and ironically triangle

901
00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:28,619
shopping center and then the triangle

902
00:40:32,089 --> 00:40:30,180
UFO

903
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:32,099
um so that's over where James iandoli

904
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,599
was from that area if you guys know

905
00:40:38,450 --> 00:40:35,760
James yeah he's from obviously you guys

906
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:38,460
know James James grew up very close to

907
00:40:43,069 --> 00:40:40,740
me and and so if you had like about

908
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:43,079
seven or eight miles that way that was

909
00:40:47,450 --> 00:40:44,880
the direction it was headed so I didn't

910
00:40:49,609 --> 00:40:47,460
get to see the shape of it but it was

911
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:49,619
like a Sunday night and it lit up the

912
00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:51,540
sky like you know you just couldn't

913
00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:53,220
believe

914
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:55,320
um in that direction and you're just

915
00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:58,800
like holy s that's UFO so that was it

916
00:41:04,370 --> 00:41:02,160
wasn't a profound experience because it

917
00:41:08,450 --> 00:41:04,380
didn't come overhead I didn't get a

918
00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:08,460
protracted look at it but yes so anybody

919
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:11,640
missing time after that uh not that I'm

920
00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:15,180
aware of I did So Pro the reason I I

921
00:41:20,810 --> 00:41:17,400
started this this podcast or started

922
00:41:23,569 --> 00:41:20,820
doing a UFO podcast before this is uh I

923
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:23,579
had done an MMA podcast for years for a

924
00:41:29,390 --> 00:41:26,760
decade and I just when David fravor came

925
00:41:32,270 --> 00:41:29,400
out and talked about uh his experience

926
00:41:34,490 --> 00:41:32,280
and I'm a military Aviator I decided I'm

927
00:41:36,589 --> 00:41:34,500
gonna talk about my experience so I told

928
00:41:38,990 --> 00:41:36,599
my MMA co-host I'm going to start

929
00:41:40,910 --> 00:41:39,000
talking about UFOs are you down and they

930
00:41:43,069 --> 00:41:40,920
said no and I said all right it's good

931
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,079
good and we're still friends but I was

932
00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:45,599
like I'm starting to show on my own and

933
00:41:50,210 --> 00:41:47,700
that's that's how this this happened is

934
00:41:52,130 --> 00:41:50,220
because uh I felt empowered that I could

935
00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:52,140
speak about it without being embarrassed

936
00:41:58,849 --> 00:41:55,079
so let me go to money Nathan yeah I've

937
00:42:01,310 --> 00:41:58,859
not had a sighting in in uh waking State

938
00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:01,320
I've had a experience in a dream that

939
00:42:07,550 --> 00:42:04,140
was um incredibly powerful and it was

940
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:07,560
long before I knew anything about orbs

941
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,020
or uh you know orb sightings whatever

942
00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:12,000
but essentially uh there are a lot

943
00:42:16,130 --> 00:42:13,380
there's a lot of detail in the dream but

944
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,140
the main part about the UFO is in the

945
00:42:20,690 --> 00:42:18,240
sky

946
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:20,700
first of all the ocean was like gone I

947
00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:22,260
was like standing at the shoreline the

948
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:25,260
ocean was gone and in the sky this

949
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,260
cloudy dark sky it was a dancing swirl

950
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:30,720
of orbs

951
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:33,599
and at the time I just reflecting on it

952
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:34,920
then I was like oh these weird lights

953
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,720
like that's just weird lights in the sky

954
00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:38,400
I don't know what that is but looking

955
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,400
back on it now I um it's a very

956
00:42:46,010 --> 00:42:43,680
significant dream for me and uh and the

957
00:42:50,510 --> 00:42:46,020
orbs were very powerful probably present

958
00:42:55,010 --> 00:42:52,910
Debs

959
00:42:58,130 --> 00:42:55,020
um see that couple I've saw one year in

960
00:43:00,109 --> 00:42:58,140
airport and I had a really unusual

961
00:43:06,589 --> 00:43:00,119
response that I've talked to TJ several

962
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:08,089
I was driving back it was still there

963
00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:09,359
and I like I should probably take a

964
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:12,060
picture of that but I I got clients in

965
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,400
the car I gotta keep going so I just was

966
00:43:19,790 --> 00:43:16,800
like okay that was cool and then like I

967
00:43:22,430 --> 00:43:19,800
didn't even study UFOs at the time

968
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:22,440
um and then the second one was just an

969
00:43:26,809 --> 00:43:24,240
orb sighting and it happened when I was

970
00:43:29,630 --> 00:43:26,819
trying to do C5 by myself

971
00:43:31,490 --> 00:43:29,640
um and then I will say also there's been

972
00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:31,500
a couple times that clients have told me

973
00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:33,720
something is near the car but I can't

974
00:43:38,089 --> 00:43:36,420
look I can't do anything about it they

975
00:43:40,010 --> 00:43:38,099
don't know that I'm interested in UFOs

976
00:43:42,050 --> 00:43:40,020
so they just kind of said like one

977
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:42,060
something was

978
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:44,160
um floating over the car and they

979
00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:45,839
thought it was a plane and they're like

980
00:43:50,750 --> 00:43:48,060
why is it so low and you know some

981
00:43:51,530 --> 00:43:50,760
things like that have happened but

982
00:43:54,589 --> 00:43:51,540
um

983
00:43:57,230 --> 00:43:54,599
I've had more intensive experiences with

984
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,240
meditation also but yeah so to answer

985
00:44:02,270 --> 00:43:59,520
your question yes I have

986
00:44:04,370 --> 00:44:02,280
I just want to answer a non-et in the in

987
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:04,380
the chat because a non-et's asked me

988
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:06,960
what did it look like so I'm seeing rare

989
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:10,079
aspect and so I didn't see the shape of

990
00:44:15,530 --> 00:44:13,800
the craft I saw a lot of lighting and I

991
00:44:18,589 --> 00:44:15,540
was like I'm looking at the other kid

992
00:44:20,930 --> 00:44:18,599
who I've since contacted so one of the

993
00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:20,940
the first UFO episode I did was getting

994
00:44:26,089 --> 00:44:23,460
this kid who's from Brooklyn back on the

995
00:44:28,190 --> 00:44:26,099
on the show so that we could we could go

996
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:28,200
over together and

997
00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:30,900
um I I didn't see the shape of it it

998
00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:33,300
just was so lit up that I thought this

999
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:35,940
is like some close encounters kind of

1000
00:44:40,130 --> 00:44:38,400
deal it it and the thing is you're just

1001
00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:40,140
like man that's a UFO man that's just

1002
00:44:46,370 --> 00:44:43,380
not an airplane but anyway uh let me let

1003
00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:46,380
me get to uh Matt please

1004
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:48,900
okay DJ I don't want to get a call about

1005
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:49,610
this later

1006
00:44:55,790 --> 00:44:52,560
[Laughter]

1007
00:44:58,690 --> 00:44:55,800
so my first experience with UFO stuff

1008
00:45:04,790 --> 00:44:58,700
was actually whenever I was about

1009
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:04,800
uh 14 years old I think uh we are at my

1010
00:45:11,170 --> 00:45:07,980
family's uh lake house I had taken a

1011
00:45:15,250 --> 00:45:11,180
friend with me and

1012
00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:15,260
we went down to the lake at night

1013
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,660
to specifically look for UFOs to see if

1014
00:45:24,050 --> 00:45:20,400
we could see any UFOs

1015
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:24,060
and we took an audio recorder with us uh

1016
00:45:27,950 --> 00:45:25,440
back then we didn't have access to any

1017
00:45:29,089 --> 00:45:27,960
video equipment or anything and we went

1018
00:45:31,309 --> 00:45:29,099
down there

1019
00:45:32,569 --> 00:45:31,319
and we saw UFOs

1020
00:45:33,849 --> 00:45:32,579
uh

1021
00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:33,859
so

1022
00:45:42,890 --> 00:45:39,599
we saw lights that we could not identify

1023
00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:42,900
that appeared extremely high altitude uh

1024
00:45:48,970 --> 00:45:45,420
two of them uh

1025
00:45:51,470 --> 00:45:48,980
on a path to intersect with one another

1026
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:51,480
and whenever they got to the

1027
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,599
intersection point they became one light

1028
00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:56,160
instead of two

1029
00:46:02,089 --> 00:45:59,640
uh went a separate Direction then made a

1030
00:46:05,390 --> 00:46:02,099
complete right angle turn

1031
00:46:07,790 --> 00:46:05,400
like on a dime uh went a little bit

1032
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:07,800
further and stopped and then looked like

1033
00:46:14,210 --> 00:46:11,040
they just it whatever just zoomed off

1034
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,220
into orbit in a fraction of a second

1035
00:46:18,589 --> 00:46:16,800
mine's blown I spent the rest of my life

1036
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,599
looking up in the night sky trying to

1037
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:20,400
see that again trying to identify I've

1038
00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:22,800
seen uh satellites in orbit you know

1039
00:46:28,250 --> 00:46:25,260
various aircraft and stuff fast forward

1040
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,260
a few a couple years or so I'm 16 I'm

1041
00:46:33,650 --> 00:46:30,480
with my cousin we're sitting waiting for

1042
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:33,660
a train to cross uh we're surrounded by

1043
00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:36,660
cars we're in the city I happen to look

1044
00:46:44,569 --> 00:46:40,380
up and see the classic uh Tic Tac or

1045
00:46:46,730 --> 00:46:44,579
cigar shaped UFO metallic smooth no

1046
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:46,740
wings no tell nothing

1047
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:49,680
staying pretty stationary in the sky it

1048
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:51,359
was a bright sunny day there was a

1049
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,000
little bit of puffy cloud cover and this

1050
00:47:00,050 --> 00:46:57,119
thing was kind of behind the clouds and

1051
00:47:01,970 --> 00:47:00,060
I like called to my cousin hey look at

1052
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:01,980
that what is that he looked up he saw it

1053
00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:05,040
too a cloud passed in front of it and

1054
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,599
after the cloud moved out of the way it

1055
00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:08,640
was just gone we never saw anything fly

1056
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:11,220
off or anything like that same cousin

1057
00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:15,359
I'm actually uh on my way I took him

1058
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:18,660
with me to my first major Bigfoot outing

1059
00:47:25,069 --> 00:47:23,040
and it was down in uh Lufkin Texas area

1060
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,079
and on the way to Lufkin we drive

1061
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:27,599
through the town of Tyler Texas

1062
00:47:32,569 --> 00:47:30,060
well on the way back we're talking

1063
00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:32,579
and we're going back through Tyler

1064
00:47:41,690 --> 00:47:40,609
I have no explanation I I don't know

1065
00:47:45,230 --> 00:47:41,700
this is kind of

1066
00:47:46,849 --> 00:47:45,240
so missing time yeah basically we're

1067
00:47:48,349 --> 00:47:46,859
sitting there talking as we enter Tyler

1068
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,359
the next thing I know we're on the other

1069
00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:49,920
side of Tyler

1070
00:47:53,630 --> 00:47:51,720
and I'm like looking at him and he's

1071
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:53,640
looking at me and I can tell he's

1072
00:47:59,089 --> 00:47:56,880
nervous you can tell I'm nervous and I

1073
00:48:01,370 --> 00:47:59,099
was like do you remember driving through

1074
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:01,380
Tyler just now and he's like not at all

1075
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:04,319
and I was like we didn't take any of the

1076
00:48:08,329 --> 00:48:06,900
turn like there's specific landmarks and

1077
00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:08,339
stuff that we had seen on the way down

1078
00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:10,440
there the route that we think neither

1079
00:48:14,329 --> 00:48:12,119
one of us could remember any of those

1080
00:48:15,770 --> 00:48:14,339
things we're not from down there as the

1081
00:48:18,170 --> 00:48:15,780
first time we had ever been through

1082
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:18,180
there you know other than previously on

1083
00:48:23,210 --> 00:48:21,599
the way down so it's not like I

1084
00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:23,220
subconsciously just drove back through

1085
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,020
the town because I know it from you know

1086
00:48:29,809 --> 00:48:27,359
memory or anything right

1087
00:48:32,690 --> 00:48:29,819
um but we were in a car and I don't know

1088
00:48:34,430 --> 00:48:32,700
I've you know other than incidents of

1089
00:48:36,050 --> 00:48:34,440
people being in automobiles and like

1090
00:48:37,370 --> 00:48:36,060
pulling off on the side of the road or

1091
00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:37,380
waking up on the side of the road or

1092
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:38,940
something I've never really heard of

1093
00:48:42,730 --> 00:48:41,460
missing time where people were actually

1094
00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:42,740
driving

1095
00:48:48,530 --> 00:48:45,180
but it's I mean

1096
00:48:52,010 --> 00:48:48,540
so yeah uh those were my experiences

1097
00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:52,020
with UFOs and in turn missing time

1098
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,400
so did I get a turn absolutely

1099
00:49:01,490 --> 00:48:57,119
yes sir

1100
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:01,500
okay all right so when I was 18 I went

1101
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,599
uh went to school with my then

1102
00:49:08,930 --> 00:49:05,760
girlfriend and I picked her up to take

1103
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:08,940
her home and we had an hour and a half

1104
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:10,800
of missing time she remembers it I

1105
00:49:15,710 --> 00:49:13,200
remember two weeks later I changed every

1106
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:15,720
single aspect of my life

1107
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:18,720
uh and and went from being wanting to be

1108
00:49:22,670 --> 00:49:21,359
a doctor to wanting to be an engineer

1109
00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:22,680
and I went to a different University

1110
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:25,500
changed universities and on my path to

1111
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:27,540
being an engineer I decided that I would

1112
00:49:35,630 --> 00:49:31,920
be better off if I was a master of the

1113
00:49:38,030 --> 00:49:35,640
underlying principles that God guide all

1114
00:49:40,250 --> 00:49:38,040
of these Sciences so I became an applied

1115
00:49:42,770 --> 00:49:40,260
mathematician and now I can do any one

1116
00:49:46,370 --> 00:49:42,780
of those things and so that led to my

1117
00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:46,380
career and everything after okay so Mike

1118
00:49:52,010 --> 00:49:49,859
and I vaguely remember seeing craft when

1119
00:49:55,490 --> 00:49:52,020
I was 10 years old in the sky when I was

1120
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:55,500
out my telescope okay but let's go to

1121
00:50:00,890 --> 00:49:58,079
last year

1122
00:50:04,910 --> 00:50:00,900
Lala and I are driving down the road

1123
00:50:07,069 --> 00:50:04,920
and she has a sunroof in her Toyota

1124
00:50:09,410 --> 00:50:07,079
I look up through the sunroof and

1125
00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:09,420
there's a triangle

1126
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:11,819
um 300 feet over us

1127
00:50:18,010 --> 00:50:14,000
so it's and it's

1128
00:50:22,490 --> 00:50:18,020
definitely pacing us right in the center

1129
00:50:25,609 --> 00:50:22,500
of the sunroof for well over two miles

1130
00:50:28,010 --> 00:50:25,619
so it's pacing up at every turn every

1131
00:50:31,309 --> 00:50:28,020
speed change is right there

1132
00:50:33,950 --> 00:50:31,319
so and of course in that moment you are

1133
00:50:36,829 --> 00:50:33,960
just too dumbfounded to even think to

1134
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:36,839
yank out your iPhone and take a picture

1135
00:50:42,410 --> 00:50:39,900
I'm just wanting to look hell yeah so

1136
00:50:44,450 --> 00:50:42,420
then look over my shoulder when a bright

1137
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:44,460
light looks and I see a military

1138
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,240
helicopter coming from the base that is

1139
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:51,119
near us okay so

1140
00:50:58,609 --> 00:50:55,440
um uh and the the triangle does this

1141
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,619
turns around and starts moving off

1142
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:00,960
and she says I said turn around with the

1143
00:51:05,809 --> 00:51:03,119
other way so she goes down about hour 15

1144
00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:05,819
seconds to a to a to a thing through the

1145
00:51:10,430 --> 00:51:08,220
median she makes a U-turn turns around

1146
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:10,440
and I look up where the craft ought to

1147
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:14,160
be and that bad boy is long gone and the

1148
00:51:21,530 --> 00:51:16,079
helicopter's going home

1149
00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:21,540
so yeah so now now we've I I got a cyanx

1150
00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:24,900
option night night camera I've had a

1151
00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:26,760
triangle fly over the house

1152
00:51:31,490 --> 00:51:29,220
I've had zigzagging

1153
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:31,500
uh thing that's high up in the sky but

1154
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:32,880
it's a zigzagging lot but it's

1155
00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:35,760
non-ballistic motion and I have that on

1156
00:51:41,089 --> 00:51:37,740
clear-cut video

1157
00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:41,099
so uh with the op7 camera so it's just

1158
00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:46,549
whatever I wanted to see when I was a

1159
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:47,880
kid and thought maybe it was always

1160
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:50,220
going to happen to somebody else the day

1161
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,690
I don't know what's funnier is that you

1162
00:52:00,890 --> 00:51:58,319
got to stare at this thing and look at

1163
00:52:02,690 --> 00:52:00,900
it or them sending out a helicopter to

1164
00:52:05,150 --> 00:52:02,700
intercept a triangle which is like

1165
00:52:07,609 --> 00:52:05,160
really really dumb because your evasive

1166
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,619
maneuver capability if it comes toward

1167
00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:10,079
you you can't even do like what uh the

1168
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:11,520
guy who was the guy that was in New York

1169
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:13,200
with Ryan Graves and those guys where

1170
00:52:17,630 --> 00:52:14,880
they were able to split their formation

1171
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:17,640
the helicopter I mean you just can't you

1172
00:52:22,190 --> 00:52:19,680
can't roll and maneuver that quickly so

1173
00:52:22,970 --> 00:52:22,200
that's I don't know man they have I

1174
00:52:25,609 --> 00:52:22,980
don't know

1175
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:25,619
but I saw

1176
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:28,800
before I knew I was driving and I saw

1177
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:32,160
this I didn't know UFOs could be orbs I

1178
00:52:39,170 --> 00:52:36,000
I had no clue at all and I see these

1179
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,180
things up in the sky and a helicopters

1180
00:52:43,790 --> 00:52:41,280
following them and then two different

1181
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:43,800
color helicopters from the base

1182
00:52:48,530 --> 00:52:45,660
stay in the background not get close

1183
00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:48,540
watching and this guy was in the

1184
00:52:53,390 --> 00:52:51,900
helicopter and he was holding it was but

1185
00:52:55,549 --> 00:52:53,400
whatever this huge thing was it was

1186
00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:55,559
bolted into the floor and they were

1187
00:53:00,109 --> 00:52:57,480
aiming it at them and the things would

1188
00:53:03,470 --> 00:53:00,119
go in and out of of view so they would

1189
00:53:06,109 --> 00:53:03,480
disappear and they come back and I was I

1190
00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:06,119
always wondered what what was that it

1191
00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:09,480
looked like a big bazooka bolted to

1192
00:53:15,470 --> 00:53:12,839
well yeah there's I mean like in Apache

1193
00:53:17,930 --> 00:53:15,480
has you know has uh I think they have a

1194
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:17,940
belly mounted uh weapon as well I don't

1195
00:53:22,030 --> 00:53:20,160
know if it's like a 20 millimeter or 30

1196
00:53:25,309 --> 00:53:22,040
millimeter I don't know what type of a

1197
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:25,319
helicopter you saw I mean if it was like

1198
00:53:30,770 --> 00:53:27,599
a uh like an Apache you're gonna have

1199
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:30,780
like uh one uh like a pilot and then

1200
00:53:35,089 --> 00:53:33,420
like a a co-pilot or like a sensor

1201
00:53:48,670 --> 00:53:35,099
operator right behind him so it's like

1202
00:53:54,650 --> 00:53:51,829
yeah it may have been adapts you know

1203
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:54,660
like they have these uh mh60s with the

1204
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:56,400
daps it has like it has they have

1205
00:54:00,770 --> 00:53:59,280
rockets and they also have uh I again I

1206
00:54:02,930 --> 00:54:00,780
don't know what millimeter weapon but

1207
00:54:07,609 --> 00:54:02,940
but they have those for strafing and

1208
00:54:10,250 --> 00:54:07,619
stuff I don't know DJ we live on uh

1209
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:10,260
Chesapeake Bay and right at Susquehanna

1210
00:54:17,329 --> 00:54:14,880
River and this is heavily populated they

1211
00:54:20,089 --> 00:54:17,339
would not be firing a missile at

1212
00:54:22,490 --> 00:54:20,099
anything right that would be stupid

1213
00:54:25,370 --> 00:54:22,500
right we really notice this stuff

1214
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:25,380
because we have const you're going to

1215
00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:29,280
figure out where we are we have 100 all

1216
00:54:36,010 --> 00:54:32,220
times seven days a week 24 hour a day no

1217
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:36,020
tabs nobody's supposed to be flying here

1218
00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:37,920
they come out

1219
00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:39,720
and of course they got their radar on

1220
00:54:43,130 --> 00:54:41,700
they went oops Here Comes one into our

1221
00:54:44,930 --> 00:54:43,140
Zone again

1222
00:54:46,970 --> 00:54:44,940
you know you you

1223
00:54:49,069 --> 00:54:46,980
you bring up a really interesting point

1224
00:54:52,130 --> 00:54:49,079
that I never even thought of Bob which

1225
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:52,140
is that if there is a craft and some and

1226
00:54:58,250 --> 00:54:55,680
and just a military organization X Y or

1227
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,260
Z decides to fire on it I think what you

1228
00:55:02,329 --> 00:55:00,240
were alluding to is now you've got

1229
00:55:04,370 --> 00:55:02,339
falling debris what if you don't hit it

1230
00:55:06,829 --> 00:55:04,380
where does that missile Go I mean you

1231
00:55:09,650 --> 00:55:06,839
have to be very careful and I think

1232
00:55:11,210 --> 00:55:09,660
that's why sometimes they wait for you

1233
00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:11,220
know things to go out over the water and

1234
00:55:15,049 --> 00:55:12,540
things like that because you're not

1235
00:55:16,990 --> 00:55:15,059
going to have any sort of fratricide or

1236
00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:17,000
or anything like that you know

1237
00:55:22,430 --> 00:55:19,920
what they call like sivkas civilian

1238
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:22,440
casualties as a result of shooting down

1239
00:55:27,890 --> 00:55:24,480
something that's not offensive and and

1240
00:55:29,809 --> 00:55:27,900
surely if either your weapon or a piece

1241
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:29,819
of that craft should you be able to even

1242
00:55:34,430 --> 00:55:32,400
injure it is going to fall on somebody's

1243
00:55:41,230 --> 00:55:34,440
townhouse so

1244
00:55:46,910 --> 00:55:44,089
around you know but they got so low to

1245
00:55:49,250 --> 00:55:46,920
my car that the the air pushed my car

1246
00:55:51,950 --> 00:55:49,260
off the road a little bit the rotor wash

1247
00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:51,960
blew her up the road dude I'm telling

1248
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:54,660
you it was amazing but but this isn't

1249
00:56:00,650 --> 00:55:58,079
daylight with tons of traffic on

1250
00:56:04,130 --> 00:56:00,660
um in Baltimore and

1251
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:04,140
I was I was I couldn't believe it well I

1252
00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:06,240
think she followed them for so far that

1253
00:56:10,790 --> 00:56:09,180
they blew her and her best friend but

1254
00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:10,800
her bet they blew them off the road to

1255
00:56:14,809 --> 00:56:12,300
get rid of them I don't know

1256
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,819
this is this is actually a whole nother

1257
00:56:19,010 --> 00:56:16,559
because you know Linda Thompson talks

1258
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,020
about stuff like this but not as drastic

1259
00:56:24,650 --> 00:56:21,119
as them coming within because they

1260
00:56:27,049 --> 00:56:24,660
shouldn't be below 500 feet and I have

1261
00:56:29,930 --> 00:56:27,059
to go look at FAA airspace but they

1262
00:56:32,210 --> 00:56:29,940
shouldn't be below 500 feet in in unless

1263
00:56:35,210 --> 00:56:32,220
you're in an unpopulated area so over

1264
00:56:38,990 --> 00:56:35,220
the ocean both report the same

1265
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:41,390
on Eastern Avenue you know what I'm

1266
00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:43,680
talking about I I don't know but I but I

1267
00:56:50,750 --> 00:56:44,760
know what you're talking about Aberdeen

1268
00:56:55,549 --> 00:56:52,809
you can hear the empire in artillery

1269
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:55,559
multiple days a week There's No flights

1270
00:56:57,530 --> 00:56:56,400
there

1271
00:56:59,870 --> 00:56:57,540
yep

1272
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,880
yeah that that is uh that's very

1273
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:01,440
interesting and it's also it's not

1274
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,359
terribly surprising that they're coming

1275
00:57:07,069 --> 00:57:05,520
after Lala because they're looking at

1276
00:57:08,450 --> 00:57:07,079
her like well we got our own Chris

1277
00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:08,460
bledso we didn't have to go to North

1278
00:57:14,510 --> 00:57:12,540
Carolina but uh all right I'm gonna go

1279
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:14,520
with my topic and what we'll do is we'll

1280
00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:17,520
come around so it'll go myself Nathan

1281
00:57:21,470 --> 00:57:20,220
Debs Matt and then Bob if you have a a

1282
00:57:22,490 --> 00:57:21,480
question you like to throw out to the

1283
00:57:24,349 --> 00:57:22,500
group we'll put it out there so I'm

1284
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:24,359
going to start with mine which is on

1285
00:57:29,930 --> 00:57:27,839
this word documento and it is this and

1286
00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:29,940
and it really was interesting to listen

1287
00:57:35,569 --> 00:57:32,760
to you guys and Graham

1288
00:57:37,250 --> 00:57:35,579
um talk about uh downloads from

1289
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:37,260
different intelligences and things that

1290
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,319
they say so here here goes

1291
00:57:43,970 --> 00:57:42,240
and I'll repeat this for each each

1292
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,980
individual that has to answer it so you

1293
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:45,119
don't have to remember it like 10

1294
00:57:49,490 --> 00:57:46,559
minutes from now

1295
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:49,500
the notion that uh the origin of

1296
00:57:54,290 --> 00:57:51,599
intelligence is visiting Earth our alien

1297
00:57:56,089 --> 00:57:54,300
in nature could be as out of Vogue as

1298
00:57:57,410 --> 00:57:56,099
the clothing worn at Woodstock would you

1299
00:58:01,309 --> 00:57:57,420
agree Lala

1300
00:58:05,089 --> 00:58:01,319
um is this significant to you Nathan in

1301
00:58:09,710 --> 00:58:05,099
one way or another and why as compared

1302
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:09,720
to a uh an intelligence that is uh has

1303
00:58:15,530 --> 00:58:12,960
does reside and has resided on Earth

1304
00:58:18,109 --> 00:58:15,540
repeat that first part one more okay

1305
00:58:19,730 --> 00:58:18,119
okay so yeah I won't I won't add in the

1306
00:58:20,930 --> 00:58:19,740
funny bit because you guys won't want to

1307
00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:20,940
hear that again

1308
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:22,920
um the notion that uh intelligence is

1309
00:58:28,370 --> 00:58:25,440
visiting Earth or alien nature

1310
00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:28,380
um is this significant to you in one way

1311
00:58:34,970 --> 00:58:31,680
or another and why whether or not their

1312
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:34,980
origin is is alien meaning coming from a

1313
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:38,400
different planet Galaxy or its origin is

1314
00:58:43,309 --> 00:58:41,040
from here on our planet that they share

1315
00:58:46,370 --> 00:58:43,319
the planet is that significant to you in

1316
00:58:48,289 --> 00:58:46,380
any way and why yeah so for me it used

1317
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:48,299
to be significant and I would say it's

1318
00:58:51,230 --> 00:58:49,680
not anymore

1319
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:51,240
um in part because

1320
00:58:58,250 --> 00:58:55,200
the way I have come to look at any

1321
00:59:00,349 --> 00:58:58,260
intelligence is just every every

1322
00:59:02,569 --> 00:59:00,359
intelligence is valuable no matter where

1323
00:59:04,190 --> 00:59:02,579
it comes from and there are other

1324
00:59:07,130 --> 00:59:04,200
intelligences with us on the planet

1325
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:07,140
right now that that you know are

1326
00:59:11,150 --> 00:59:09,119
incredible and uh and the fact that

1327
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:11,160
intelligence exists at all and all of

1328
00:59:17,390 --> 00:59:14,760
its varied forms is to me uh this sort

1329
00:59:20,690 --> 00:59:17,400
of clue that there is this you know

1330
00:59:22,609 --> 00:59:20,700
richness to life everywhere

1331
00:59:24,410 --> 00:59:22,619
um so I'm I'm deeply fascinated just by

1332
00:59:27,289 --> 00:59:24,420
what we have here I don't know that I

1333
00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:27,299
need an another Intelligence coming from

1334
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,220
elsewhere and I think also too I think

1335
00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:31,680
the distinctions are less important to

1336
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:35,160
me like Earth non-earth you know here

1337
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:38,160
out out in space like to me is there's

1338
00:59:44,270 --> 00:59:41,520
this interconnectedness that just

1339
00:59:47,390 --> 00:59:44,280
reframing the entire space as we're all

1340
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:47,400
in the same sandbox uh it's just that

1341
00:59:52,250 --> 00:59:48,960
you know I think we kind of tend to

1342
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:52,260
dwell on the distance component of it as

1343
00:59:56,809 --> 00:59:54,480
being this huge factor that somehow

1344
00:59:58,849 --> 00:59:56,819
makes it you know I don't know

1345
01:00:00,829 --> 00:59:58,859
insurmountable or we're super separate

1346
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,839
from one another but distance to me

1347
01:00:04,430 --> 01:00:02,400
doesn't matter when it comes to

1348
01:00:05,930 --> 01:00:04,440
Consciousness so

1349
01:00:09,410 --> 01:00:05,940
um yeah it's not as important to me

1350
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:09,420
anymore it's become much more personal

1351
01:00:15,049 --> 01:00:12,240
um and uh and I try to find the meaning

1352
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,059
in all sort of aspects of intelligence

1353
01:00:20,030 --> 01:00:17,040
that I that I encounter

1354
01:00:22,250 --> 01:00:20,040
and as an add-on just the fact that so

1355
01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:22,260
many people are out on the alien

1356
01:00:28,609 --> 01:00:24,480
hypothesis just if you would just give a

1357
01:00:31,370 --> 01:00:28,619
quick comment on that yeah uh well I I

1358
01:00:33,950 --> 01:00:31,380
think we find over time that our

1359
01:00:35,569 --> 01:00:33,960
our hypotheses sort of model where we

1360
01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:35,579
are developmentally

1361
01:00:41,049 --> 01:00:38,760
in in both our personal lives but also

1362
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:41,059
culturally and societally like globally

1363
01:00:46,910 --> 01:00:43,440
and it makes sense that we would have

1364
01:00:49,609 --> 01:00:46,920
that ET hypothesis at a at an age where

1365
01:00:52,609 --> 01:00:49,619
we have gone to space right and where we

1366
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:52,619
have left our own atmosphere for the

1367
01:00:59,270 --> 01:00:55,440
first time and so we have this kind of

1368
01:01:00,890 --> 01:00:59,280
corollary idea that well in order to to

1369
01:01:03,170 --> 01:01:00,900
get here they have to come from out

1370
01:01:04,970 --> 01:01:03,180
there and do what we did by leaving and

1371
01:01:06,289 --> 01:01:04,980
they left somewhere and like it's our

1372
01:01:07,970 --> 01:01:06,299
it's the best model we have because

1373
01:01:11,230 --> 01:01:07,980
we've just gotten to it

1374
01:01:14,270 --> 01:01:11,240
but I think as we continue to explore

1375
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:14,280
the nature of reality and and explore

1376
01:01:19,069 --> 01:01:17,280
the uh the revelations of of quantum

1377
01:01:22,370 --> 01:01:19,079
mechanics for example among other things

1378
01:01:24,609 --> 01:01:22,380
we're learning that uh that's a

1379
01:01:27,410 --> 01:01:24,619
simplistic way just to look at reality

1380
01:01:28,849 --> 01:01:27,420
uh the the that they would come from

1381
01:01:30,349 --> 01:01:28,859
elsewhere I don't think they have to

1382
01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:30,359
which is not to say that they might not

1383
01:01:35,450 --> 01:01:32,220
be there I mean I think that there are

1384
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:35,460
ETS out there but uh it doesn't surprise

1385
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:37,920
me that our hypotheses are shifting away

1386
01:01:42,650 --> 01:01:40,799
from that being the assault Focus

1387
01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:42,660
Amen brother

1388
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:44,040
Debs

1389
01:01:48,530 --> 01:01:45,839
um I'll restate for you

1390
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:48,540
um the origin of these intelligences

1391
01:01:54,650 --> 01:01:51,599
visiting Earth whether they be alien in

1392
01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:54,660
nature or or that their origin is just

1393
01:01:59,089 --> 01:01:57,119
is here on Earth with us is this

1394
01:02:01,309 --> 01:01:59,099
significant to you one way or the other

1395
01:02:03,289 --> 01:02:01,319
the origin of it

1396
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:03,299
is it significant to you in one way or

1397
01:02:08,990 --> 01:02:06,720
another and why I would say to me it is

1398
01:02:11,030 --> 01:02:09,000
significant in the sense that I feel

1399
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:11,040
like we're starting to understand more

1400
01:02:17,870 --> 01:02:14,160
about Humanity's history when we look

1401
01:02:21,530 --> 01:02:17,880
into how long these other entities

1402
01:02:25,309 --> 01:02:21,540
whether they are extraterrestrial or

1403
01:02:27,289 --> 01:02:25,319
um ultra-terrestrial have been here I

1404
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:27,299
get the sense that the more we look into

1405
01:02:31,490 --> 01:02:30,240
that and we look into their Origins

1406
01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:31,500
we're actually learning more about

1407
01:02:36,589 --> 01:02:34,559
ourselves so I find that fascinating I

1408
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:36,599
find the the path leads us to

1409
01:02:41,569 --> 01:02:38,880
understanding ourselves more

1410
01:02:43,130 --> 01:02:41,579
um I can't say where they're from if

1411
01:02:44,930 --> 01:02:43,140
they are extraterrestrial they may have

1412
01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:44,940
been here for a really long time so when

1413
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:47,040
do they stop having to use the

1414
01:02:51,170 --> 01:02:49,200
Extraterrestrial card that's confusing

1415
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:51,180
right I don't know like if they've been

1416
01:02:55,010 --> 01:02:53,760
here a billion more years than us for

1417
01:02:57,950 --> 01:02:55,020
instance do they still have to be

1418
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:57,960
extraterrestrial like I don't know but

1419
01:03:01,690 --> 01:02:59,520
yeah we've got to check their passport

1420
01:03:03,650 --> 01:03:01,700
documents and see when they right yeah

1421
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:03,660
so

1422
01:03:11,809 --> 01:03:07,920
Nathan give her a bump in her 401K share

1423
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:11,819
if you would and Matt who put nothing

1424
01:03:17,030 --> 01:03:14,880
about the UFO experience on his

1425
01:03:19,130 --> 01:03:17,040
onboarding forms when we onboarded him

1426
01:03:21,170 --> 01:03:19,140
onto cab did you see any of that Nathan

1427
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:21,180
and that narrative okay

1428
01:03:26,410 --> 01:03:23,280
all right go ahead man

1429
01:03:30,170 --> 01:03:26,420
um I got a question myself you know

1430
01:03:31,250 --> 01:03:30,180
not it's uh no you have a question for

1431
01:03:33,650 --> 01:03:31,260
me or are you going to answer my

1432
01:03:35,390 --> 01:03:33,660
question I'll answer you I mean I guess

1433
01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:35,400
okay um

1434
01:03:45,170 --> 01:03:42,650
of course it is uh both ways whether it

1435
01:03:48,530 --> 01:03:45,180
be from somewhere else or something from

1436
01:03:54,170 --> 01:03:50,329
people always

1437
01:03:55,789 --> 01:03:54,180
uh have thought about aliens visiting us

1438
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:55,799
and what it would be like you know you

1439
01:04:01,370 --> 01:03:58,799
see it in pop culture uh

1440
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:01,380
it's a mind-blowing thing to even think

1441
01:04:05,870 --> 01:04:03,599
about you know what are the

1442
01:04:08,990 --> 01:04:05,880
ramifications of another civilization

1443
01:04:10,089 --> 01:04:09,000
from some other planet or some other you

1444
01:04:13,010 --> 01:04:10,099
know

1445
01:04:15,470 --> 01:04:13,020
Universe possibly uh making contact with

1446
01:04:18,530 --> 01:04:15,480
us and wanting to communicate with us

1447
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,540
there's there's lots of different ways

1448
01:04:22,609 --> 01:04:20,160
that could go

1449
01:04:24,890 --> 01:04:22,619
and on the other side of the coin if

1450
01:04:26,450 --> 01:04:24,900
these things are from here

1451
01:04:29,030 --> 01:04:26,460
uh

1452
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:29,040
that makes me think that man

1453
01:04:33,890 --> 01:04:31,920
we don't know anything everything we

1454
01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:33,900
think we know is even more insignificant

1455
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:36,180
and wrong we have to turn inward and

1456
01:04:41,390 --> 01:04:39,359
start trying to re-understand and kind

1457
01:04:43,849 --> 01:04:41,400
of Reinventing the will and seeing where

1458
01:04:46,970 --> 01:04:43,859
we forked left whenever we should have

1459
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:46,980
went right to understand what we're

1460
01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:48,799
experiencing

1461
01:04:55,309 --> 01:04:52,319
sometimes I think the uh possibility of

1462
01:04:58,370 --> 01:04:55,319
you know these things being alien in

1463
01:05:00,530 --> 01:04:58,380
nature would actually be better for us

1464
01:05:04,030 --> 01:05:00,540
as a civilization

1465
01:05:07,130 --> 01:05:04,040
than if they are from here just because

1466
01:05:08,930 --> 01:05:07,140
of what it means that there's something

1467
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:08,940
like that going on

1468
01:05:12,349 --> 01:05:10,319
uh

1469
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:12,359
I mean now we have governments involved

1470
01:05:15,410 --> 01:05:13,920
in it you know trying to understand what

1471
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:15,420
they are and acknowledging that they

1472
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:16,799
exist and if that's something coming

1473
01:05:20,990 --> 01:05:19,200
from this planet I think that's more

1474
01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:21,000
terrifying than the idea of it being

1475
01:05:25,250 --> 01:05:24,180
something from outside of our planet

1476
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:25,260
yeah

1477
01:05:32,030 --> 01:05:29,520
man there's a lot of Rich a lot of Rich

1478
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:32,040
material in there uh Matt because you

1479
01:05:35,870 --> 01:05:33,359
you brought up a lot of interesting

1480
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:35,880
points there were intersections in both

1481
01:05:40,789 --> 01:05:37,680
of what Nathan said and what Deb said

1482
01:05:43,069 --> 01:05:40,799
and and what you said and as far as uh

1483
01:05:45,770 --> 01:05:43,079
going left or right picking a direction

1484
01:05:47,930 --> 01:05:45,780
I'm thinking the one that doesn't lead

1485
01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:47,940
to bigfoot coming out on the trail and

1486
01:05:51,950 --> 01:05:49,380
hitting you in the chest with a log

1487
01:05:54,289 --> 01:05:51,960
because he wants you to get away that

1488
01:05:58,609 --> 01:05:54,299
was the right way then absolutely

1489
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:58,619
absolutely 100 all right so uh Lala or

1490
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:01,200
Bob our beautiful love couple which uh

1491
01:06:05,569 --> 01:06:03,599
whoever wants to answer that first is it

1492
01:06:07,549 --> 01:06:05,579
significant to you one way or the other

1493
01:06:10,609 --> 01:06:07,559
whether the origin is extraterrestrial

1494
01:06:15,710 --> 01:06:10,619
or as dip put it ultra-terrestrial is

1495
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,549
um

1496
01:06:24,549 --> 01:06:22,250
yes and no I think that from what I hear

1497
01:06:28,970 --> 01:06:24,559
from some people that I admire that

1498
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:28,980
essentially we're all one big thing

1499
01:06:36,250 --> 01:06:32,880
connected and all of this is made up to

1500
01:06:37,789 --> 01:06:36,260
an extent to learn different things

1501
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:37,799
so

1502
01:06:43,789 --> 01:06:41,280
I mean I I don't know but I feel that

1503
01:06:46,010 --> 01:06:43,799
just from us communicating with the

1504
01:06:50,210 --> 01:06:46,020
beings that have come to our home that

1505
01:06:52,910 --> 01:06:50,220
we are very much more connected than we

1506
01:06:55,250 --> 01:06:52,920
know and I think we're not taught for a

1507
01:06:57,650 --> 01:06:55,260
reason and I think

1508
01:07:01,430 --> 01:06:57,660
so we can kind of stay stuck you know

1509
01:07:03,470 --> 01:07:01,440
but then from another place I you know I

1510
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:03,480
asked them a question there's certain

1511
01:07:06,650 --> 01:07:05,280
ones come around that I ask yes or no

1512
01:07:08,990 --> 01:07:06,660
questions to

1513
01:07:12,230 --> 01:07:09,000
kind of like a pendulum question yes or

1514
01:07:13,849 --> 01:07:12,240
no and I said are you

1515
01:07:17,089 --> 01:07:13,859
from here

1516
01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:17,099
I said if you are please show up a lot

1517
01:07:21,650 --> 01:07:19,440
if not don't do anything

1518
01:07:24,650 --> 01:07:21,660
and like 50 of them

1519
01:07:27,650 --> 01:07:24,660
started coming towards the camera

1520
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:27,660
and and I thought to myself and then I

1521
01:07:32,690 --> 01:07:30,240
said is is where we're living bigger

1522
01:07:34,130 --> 01:07:32,700
than what we're taught is there more to

1523
01:07:36,170 --> 01:07:34,140
it and they go yes

1524
01:07:38,089 --> 01:07:36,180
and and so

1525
01:07:40,130 --> 01:07:38,099
but then I started asking dumb questions

1526
01:07:41,650 --> 01:07:40,140
because I got my ADHD but I mean the

1527
01:07:45,049 --> 01:07:41,660
point is

1528
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:45,059
I was surprised by their answers you

1529
01:07:47,870 --> 01:07:45,839
know

1530
01:07:50,450 --> 01:07:47,880
Lala you can imagine me I'd be asking

1531
01:07:52,370 --> 01:07:50,460
their pizza order like at Domino's do

1532
01:07:56,329 --> 01:07:52,380
they want the banana peppers do you want

1533
01:07:58,010 --> 01:07:56,339
the so no I understand Bob okay you

1534
01:07:59,690 --> 01:07:58,020
don't expect me to contradict or do you

1535
01:08:03,589 --> 01:07:59,700
so let me tell you I want you I'll give

1536
01:08:06,829 --> 01:08:03,599
you no no seriously yeah I'm gonna take

1537
01:08:10,130 --> 01:08:06,839
you down a really deep road

1538
01:08:12,109 --> 01:08:10,140
so Donald Hoffman is a cognitive

1539
01:08:13,789 --> 01:08:12,119
scientist at the University of

1540
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:13,799
California Irvine

1541
01:08:18,110 --> 01:08:16,319
and several years ago he proved a

1542
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:18,120
mathematical theorem

1543
01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:22,319
evolutionary Game Theory there's some

1544
01:08:25,789 --> 01:08:24,000
controversy in the Neuroscience

1545
01:08:28,010 --> 01:08:25,799
Community about it but to me there's

1546
01:08:29,329 --> 01:08:28,020
zero controversy I've totally accept

1547
01:08:34,189 --> 01:08:29,339
what he's done

1548
01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:34,199
and he has shown that if the hypothesis

1549
01:08:38,689 --> 01:08:36,600
in his theorem are true

1550
01:08:41,930 --> 01:08:38,699
then we

1551
01:08:44,269 --> 01:08:41,940
are our senses hooked to our

1552
01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:44,279
Consciousness through ever our brain

1553
01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:46,380
Network which is our antenna to our

1554
01:08:53,809 --> 01:08:51,000
Consciousness uh are not seeing reality

1555
01:08:55,329 --> 01:08:53,819
that our evolutionary

1556
01:08:59,390 --> 01:08:55,339
upbringing

1557
01:09:01,849 --> 01:08:59,400
adapted our senses to maximize the

1558
01:09:05,269 --> 01:09:01,859
fitness function on our species

1559
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:05,279
continuing to exist and that if a

1560
01:09:11,209 --> 01:09:08,640
species such as us does perceive actual

1561
01:09:14,269 --> 01:09:11,219
reality it's splitted with so much stuff

1562
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:14,279
that is selected against by evolution

1563
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:18,000
so he proved that we all lived in The

1564
01:09:25,729 --> 01:09:21,839
Matrix mathematically okay so a year or

1565
01:09:29,809 --> 01:09:25,739
so ago Donald got coveted

1566
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:29,819
he was deathly ill I mean really badly

1567
01:09:35,570 --> 01:09:31,920
ill and everybody thought he was gonna

1568
01:09:38,749 --> 01:09:35,580
die but he made it he got out of it and

1569
01:09:41,329 --> 01:09:38,759
when he came out he unloaded on the

1570
01:09:44,030 --> 01:09:41,339
world the most unbelievably beautiful

1571
01:09:46,430 --> 01:09:44,040
thing I believe I have ever seen in my

1572
01:09:48,410 --> 01:09:46,440
mathematical life outside of girdle's

1573
01:09:50,329 --> 01:09:48,420
incompleteness theorem but that's also

1574
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:50,339
relevant

1575
01:09:56,689 --> 01:09:54,960
Donald has come up with a collection of

1576
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:56,699
objects

1577
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:00,960
for his conscious ages so all EX all

1578
01:10:06,770 --> 01:10:03,840
experiences in any Consciousness are

1579
01:10:09,470 --> 01:10:06,780
born by a conscious agent all

1580
01:10:11,630 --> 01:10:09,480
experiences of a conscious being are an

1581
01:10:14,270 --> 01:10:11,640
example of a conscious agent and it's a

1582
01:10:17,390 --> 01:10:14,280
mathematical object okay he came up with

1583
01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:17,400
a version of conscious agent which has

1584
01:10:22,370 --> 01:10:19,199
some really interesting properties

1585
01:10:26,410 --> 01:10:22,380
called decorated permutations

1586
01:10:31,610 --> 01:10:26,420
and so the universe is just a vast

1587
01:10:33,410 --> 01:10:31,620
sea of all these conscious agents that

1588
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:33,420
jump around and move around and have

1589
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:36,960
Dynamics through a mathematical process

1590
01:10:42,649 --> 01:10:40,320
called a Markov process so this is kind

1591
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,659
of a the future of what this is going to

1592
01:10:46,189 --> 01:10:44,159
be the next step of what this is going

1593
01:10:47,810 --> 01:10:46,199
to be is dependent only what the passed

1594
01:10:50,510 --> 01:10:47,820
on so everything kind of moves forward

1595
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:50,520
through this Markov process

1596
01:10:56,990 --> 01:10:54,480
so how do we get from that to your and

1597
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:57,000
my consciousness

1598
01:11:03,729 --> 01:11:00,960
that is a humongous collection of things

1599
01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:03,739
so how you get to our tiny little self

1600
01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:07,620
is we are each a projection to a lower

1601
01:11:13,610 --> 01:11:10,800
dimensional space of all that stuff in

1602
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:13,620
the sea of of conscious agents

1603
01:11:20,689 --> 01:11:18,120
and we can't get all the stuff that's up

1604
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:20,699
there down to us so we only see a small

1605
01:11:26,990 --> 01:11:24,239
piece of it but what we get projected to

1606
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,000
each and every one of us is our own

1607
01:11:32,270 --> 01:11:30,000
illusion or virtual reality of

1608
01:11:32,990 --> 01:11:32,280
space-time and all the physics that's in

1609
01:11:36,649 --> 01:11:33,000
it

1610
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:36,659
and the year the the big huge space of

1611
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:39,840
conscious agents he says conclusively

1612
01:11:45,649 --> 01:11:42,480
that's the universal consciousness

1613
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:45,659
and this projection from the universal

1614
01:11:50,450 --> 01:11:48,000
Consciousness means that each and every

1615
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:50,460
one of our beings our little beings our

1616
01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:53,040
little Consciousness is a piece of the

1617
01:11:57,950 --> 01:11:55,320
universal Consciousness projected down

1618
01:11:59,570 --> 01:11:57,960
onto our little virtual reality

1619
01:12:01,610 --> 01:11:59,580
and

1620
01:12:04,370 --> 01:12:01,620
furthermore

1621
01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:04,380
he believes and is on the path with

1622
01:12:12,649 --> 01:12:09,960
others to deriving all of the physics of

1623
01:12:15,890 --> 01:12:12,659
space-time quantum mechanics general

1624
01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:15,900
relativity everything from the sea of

1625
01:12:21,890 --> 01:12:17,820
conscious agents as decorated

1626
01:12:24,110 --> 01:12:21,900
permutations and we get so remember I

1627
01:12:26,570 --> 01:12:24,120
said yes it's a this this projection is

1628
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:26,580
a little funnel it's a funnel on the

1629
01:12:30,590 --> 01:12:28,320
ocean and it's only getting a few drops

1630
01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:30,600
for it so the drops are squeezing

1631
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:32,880
through the funnel and that squeezing of

1632
01:12:37,610 --> 01:12:35,040
the drops through the funnel jumping out

1633
01:12:40,250 --> 01:12:37,620
drip drip drip one at a time that drip

1634
01:12:42,410 --> 01:12:40,260
drip drip one at a time is a loss of

1635
01:12:44,270 --> 01:12:42,420
information from the big conscious face

1636
01:12:48,110 --> 01:12:44,280
down to our little piece and that drip

1637
01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:48,120
drip drip is where we get time that drip

1638
01:12:55,130 --> 01:12:50,760
drip drip is one second two seconds

1639
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:55,140
three seconds so time is not real it's

1640
01:12:59,930 --> 01:12:57,600
formed from the loss of information from

1641
01:13:02,810 --> 01:12:59,940
this huge conscious space down to us

1642
01:13:04,610 --> 01:13:02,820
from the universal Consciousness to us I

1643
01:13:06,830 --> 01:13:04,620
told you you wanted me to agree with it

1644
01:13:09,649 --> 01:13:06,840
so mathematically I just agreed with

1645
01:13:11,450 --> 01:13:09,659
everything she said but just a lot of

1646
01:13:14,770 --> 01:13:11,460
math and what I left out

1647
01:13:16,610 --> 01:13:14,780
so Bob for somebody who has a

1648
01:13:20,090 --> 01:13:16,620
bags degree

1649
01:13:22,669 --> 01:13:20,100
is could I make an analogy that each of

1650
01:13:25,850 --> 01:13:22,679
us has our own set of these VR goggles

1651
01:13:28,850 --> 01:13:25,860
yes and what's projected inside those

1652
01:13:31,610 --> 01:13:28,860
goggles is what you perceive so for

1653
01:13:34,490 --> 01:13:31,620
example myself and Lala I can't perceive

1654
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:34,500
everything in my goggles that is reality

1655
01:13:40,669 --> 01:13:38,159
or receive those projections uh but to

1656
01:13:43,390 --> 01:13:40,679
the same degree perhaps that she is is

1657
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:43,400
that the analogy that that is

1658
01:13:48,530 --> 01:13:46,800
but let me add one more thing sure you

1659
01:13:51,649 --> 01:13:48,540
both are projected from the same

1660
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:51,659
computer data right but that means both

1661
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:54,480
of you are facets right Universal

1662
01:13:59,390 --> 01:13:56,880
Consciousness but right I I got that but

1663
01:14:02,510 --> 01:13:59,400
I mean as far as what I as that entity

1664
01:14:05,630 --> 01:14:02,520
can perceive I if I had you know my

1665
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:05,640
goggles I can't see outside that but the

1666
01:14:10,130 --> 01:14:07,440
the expanse of them could be a different

1667
01:14:12,290 --> 01:14:10,140
size from Nathan and Deb and Lala on

1668
01:14:15,410 --> 01:14:12,300
yourself and what and what's what

1669
01:14:17,570 --> 01:14:15,420
comprises the information that or or the

1670
01:14:20,330 --> 01:14:17,580
reality that I can perceive is that fair

1671
01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:20,340
that's fair that's why that's why five

1672
01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:23,760
people who have a UFO experience can see

1673
01:14:27,229 --> 01:14:25,440
five different things because each of

1674
01:14:29,149 --> 01:14:27,239
them has their own goggles and the

1675
01:14:31,490 --> 01:14:29,159
universal Consciousness sends each of

1676
01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:31,500
them something slightly different

1677
01:14:43,729 --> 01:14:34,080
okay so Nathan I think I got it all

1678
01:14:49,310 --> 01:14:47,030
my reality or yours oh it's the

1679
01:14:50,510 --> 01:14:49,320
universal Consciousness but your

1680
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:50,520
projection

1681
01:14:55,550 --> 01:14:54,000
down to your brain interface to the

1682
01:14:58,850 --> 01:14:55,560
universal Consciousness through that

1683
01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:58,860
projection is your virtual reality it's

1684
01:15:05,209 --> 01:15:01,199
yours alone and the universal

1685
01:15:08,689 --> 01:15:05,219
Consciousness belongs to who or what God

1686
01:15:10,729 --> 01:15:08,699
if you want yeah that's why I use the

1687
01:15:13,250 --> 01:15:10,739
goggle analogy Matt because when you

1688
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:13,260
throw those on I'm just using that as

1689
01:15:17,630 --> 01:15:15,120
just an analogy that that's what you can

1690
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:17,640
perceive is what and you don't actually

1691
01:15:23,090 --> 01:15:20,400
have the goggles on but what you can

1692
01:15:24,649 --> 01:15:23,100
perceive in reality if you you know you

1693
01:15:27,169 --> 01:15:24,659
could use those goggles say okay that's

1694
01:15:29,689 --> 01:15:27,179
me mine isn't the same as What DJ is

1695
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:29,699
perceiving I may be perceiving less than

1696
01:15:33,709 --> 01:15:31,679
you but that that goggles at least gives

1697
01:15:35,209 --> 01:15:33,719
you a framework for simple people like

1698
01:15:39,649 --> 01:15:35,219
myself to understand what he's talking

1699
01:15:40,669 --> 01:15:39,659
about Nathan yeah I mean wow all that is

1700
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:40,679
amazing

1701
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:46,430
it's a great great summary of Hoffman

1702
01:15:50,209 --> 01:15:48,480
and Bob and are really resonate with

1703
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,219
that and um and I'm a big fan of

1704
01:15:54,649 --> 01:15:52,560
Bernardo Castro as well who yeah I'm

1705
01:15:56,750 --> 01:15:54,659
sure familiar with and Bernardo talks

1706
01:15:58,610 --> 01:15:56,760
about the disassociated altar so he's a

1707
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:58,620
different terminology to talk about the

1708
01:16:02,330 --> 01:16:01,199
individual way to conscious agents

1709
01:16:04,669 --> 01:16:02,340
um and I think that that's a helpful

1710
01:16:08,209 --> 01:16:04,679
term too essentially like taking this

1711
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:08,219
concept that uh that we're used to in

1712
01:16:12,290 --> 01:16:10,320
human psychology of individuals that

1713
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:12,300
have split personality we call them

1714
01:16:18,410 --> 01:16:15,360
altered personalities so in this analogy

1715
01:16:22,010 --> 01:16:18,420
The Source God if you will essentially

1716
01:16:24,050 --> 01:16:22,020
has split personality disorder which is

1717
01:16:26,689 --> 01:16:24,060
what all conscious agents are in that

1718
01:16:28,610 --> 01:16:26,699
engine kind of giant Matrix and we're

1719
01:16:31,370 --> 01:16:28,620
all interacting with one another it's

1720
01:16:32,750 --> 01:16:31,380
sort of a process of the source of

1721
01:16:36,430 --> 01:16:32,760
Consciousness trying to understand

1722
01:16:39,229 --> 01:16:36,440
itself uh spinning out novel experience

1723
01:16:41,450 --> 01:16:39,239
uh and and it's an iterative process

1724
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:41,460
it's fractal it's uh it's expansive it

1725
01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:43,520
is ever everything that there is

1726
01:16:48,649 --> 01:16:46,260
individual process is a Markov process

1727
01:16:50,990 --> 01:16:48,659
the Markov process there you go

1728
01:16:52,910 --> 01:16:51,000
um yeah it's beautiful and I wonder you

1729
01:16:54,290 --> 01:16:52,920
know since we're on this topic I think

1730
01:16:57,470 --> 01:16:54,300
we can kind of keep going on a little

1731
01:17:00,169 --> 01:16:57,480
bit but with this understanding of

1732
01:17:02,689 --> 01:17:00,179
reality and Bob you you kind of touched

1733
01:17:05,470 --> 01:17:02,699
on this earlier on going from the nuts

1734
01:17:08,450 --> 01:17:05,480
and bolts to this focus on Consciousness

1735
01:17:10,490 --> 01:17:08,460
and I think in a way like your

1736
01:17:12,950 --> 01:17:10,500
relationship is a mirror of this uh

1737
01:17:15,229 --> 01:17:12,960
shift as well right and and many of us

1738
01:17:17,630 --> 01:17:15,239
who are in relationships if we're like a

1739
01:17:19,850 --> 01:17:17,640
rational minded person the person we

1740
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:19,860
tend to be attracted to is is a little a

1741
01:17:23,930 --> 01:17:21,360
little bit more emotive right there

1742
01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:23,940
we're used to this kind of pairing of

1743
01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:26,760
thinking and there's a beauty in that

1744
01:17:31,550 --> 01:17:29,040
pairing as opposed to just going one

1745
01:17:33,649 --> 01:17:31,560
side or the other yeah one of us is more

1746
01:17:34,850 --> 01:17:33,659
right brain one of us is more left brain

1747
01:17:36,770 --> 01:17:34,860
but we have this little piece of

1748
01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:36,780
intersection in the middle so we're like

1749
01:17:41,689 --> 01:17:38,640
two circles in a Venn diagram that

1750
01:17:44,209 --> 01:17:41,699
overlap exactly and so you know maybe

1751
01:17:46,970 --> 01:17:44,219
what we can talk about is just

1752
01:17:49,610 --> 01:17:46,980
kind of leaning into that and and where

1753
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:49,620
is it in your own experience and we can

1754
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:53,360
start with the two of you where you find

1755
01:18:00,350 --> 01:17:57,360
the I guess the the presence of this

1756
01:18:02,810 --> 01:18:00,360
reality most manifests to you you know

1757
01:18:04,610 --> 01:18:02,820
how do you feel it most manifest to you

1758
01:18:07,370 --> 01:18:04,620
because you know we can all get kind of

1759
01:18:09,950 --> 01:18:07,380
sidetracked on the light show of of The

1760
01:18:11,570 --> 01:18:09,960
Craft or whatever it is but really I

1761
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:11,580
think as you pointed out it's not really

1762
01:18:15,050 --> 01:18:13,199
about that per se it's something more

1763
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:15,060
meaningful and where is it that you find

1764
01:18:20,090 --> 01:18:18,239
that that meaning most manifest

1765
01:18:22,430 --> 01:18:20,100
okay

1766
01:18:26,689 --> 01:18:22,440
so

1767
01:18:30,410 --> 01:18:26,699
I have see Stephen in coincidences as

1768
01:18:32,930 --> 01:18:30,420
much as I used to I have just ceased now

1769
01:18:34,130 --> 01:18:32,940
I know the synchronicities exist

1770
01:18:37,070 --> 01:18:34,140
everywhere

1771
01:18:38,030 --> 01:18:37,080
so I'm sitting around just looking at

1772
01:18:40,130 --> 01:18:38,040
YouTube

1773
01:18:41,930 --> 01:18:40,140
and all of a sudden Here Comes This

1774
01:18:44,450 --> 01:18:41,940
video pops up is next in my YouTube

1775
01:18:46,130 --> 01:18:44,460
sequence and it's Donald Hoffman telling

1776
01:18:49,370 --> 01:18:46,140
me about his new ideas

1777
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:49,380
and I'm perfectly positioned at just

1778
01:18:55,550 --> 01:18:52,800
that moment it floods over me I feel

1779
01:19:01,130 --> 01:18:55,560
this unbelievable

1780
01:19:05,330 --> 01:19:01,140
uh Cog sentience and uh just just this

1781
01:19:08,090 --> 01:19:05,340
this cognitive over overflow and I'm

1782
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:08,100
absolutely certain I understand what it

1783
01:19:14,270 --> 01:19:10,800
is and it's just this overwhelming sense

1784
01:19:17,870 --> 01:19:14,280
of disguise right and I know he's right

1785
01:19:20,990 --> 01:19:17,880
and I just know it I know it and I just

1786
01:19:22,910 --> 01:19:21,000
call it Cog sentience the I know it that

1787
01:19:24,590 --> 01:19:22,920
he's right and so I'm jumping in

1788
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:24,600
learning all his math and all this other

1789
01:19:28,850 --> 01:19:25,440
stuff

1790
01:19:31,689 --> 01:19:28,860
and just one more thing is

1791
01:19:33,770 --> 01:19:31,699
uh Roger Penrose is a brilliant

1792
01:19:36,110 --> 01:19:33,780
mathematician and physicist he won the

1793
01:19:38,090 --> 01:19:36,120
Nobel Prize because he dreamed of the

1794
01:19:39,890 --> 01:19:38,100
theorem that shows all things that are

1795
01:19:42,350 --> 01:19:39,900
certain size when they squish are going

1796
01:19:44,450 --> 01:19:42,360
to turn into a black hole

1797
01:19:49,130 --> 01:19:44,460
um he got the Nobel Prize for that last

1798
01:19:50,770 --> 01:19:49,140
year he has taken a very hard to

1799
01:19:53,410 --> 01:19:50,780
understand and follow

1800
01:19:55,970 --> 01:19:53,420
mathematical theorem called girdles

1801
01:19:57,290 --> 01:19:55,980
incompleteness theorem which there are

1802
01:20:00,530 --> 01:19:57,300
some questions to which you can never

1803
01:20:03,470 --> 01:20:00,540
find the answer yes or no in math okay

1804
01:20:06,890 --> 01:20:03,480
so he has shown how

1805
01:20:09,229 --> 01:20:06,900
that implies that an artificial

1806
01:20:12,290 --> 01:20:09,239
intelligence machine

1807
01:20:15,770 --> 01:20:12,300
all trying to put Consciousness on a

1808
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,780
computer is doomed to failure before you

1809
01:20:20,209 --> 01:20:17,280
ever start

1810
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:20,219
there is no process that you can write

1811
01:20:27,410 --> 01:20:25,440
on any computer ever that will tell what

1812
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:27,420
you are working on you have achieved

1813
01:20:34,850 --> 01:20:29,280
understanding

1814
01:20:37,790 --> 01:20:34,860
not conscious you're not conscious no

1815
01:20:39,770 --> 01:20:37,800
computer can ever have a program written

1816
01:20:42,110 --> 01:20:39,780
on it that will determine when you've

1817
01:20:44,209 --> 01:20:42,120
achieved understanding

1818
01:20:46,910 --> 01:20:44,219
before the before the before the thing

1819
01:20:49,370 --> 01:20:46,920
has started it's impossible to write

1820
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:49,380
such a program that means no computer

1821
01:20:54,649 --> 01:20:52,560
will ever be a conscious entity now they

1822
01:20:57,169 --> 01:20:54,659
can be approximately conscious

1823
01:21:00,410 --> 01:20:57,179
approximately like us so my personal

1824
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:00,420
belief is where our future goes is a

1825
01:21:05,810 --> 01:21:02,880
marriage between the human mind and its

1826
01:21:08,209 --> 01:21:05,820
Consciousness and machines which we will

1827
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:08,219
interface with with the neural link uh

1828
01:21:13,310 --> 01:21:11,040
and we too will become these cybernetic

1829
01:21:15,770 --> 01:21:13,320
organisms which are much better bigger

1830
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:15,780
and better and more capable than either

1831
01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:18,719
of us alone and so I'm just telling you

1832
01:21:22,610 --> 01:21:20,219
this to all this kind of Consciousness

1833
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:22,620
stuff it's like everything I'm thinking

1834
01:21:25,209 --> 01:21:23,760
about now

1835
01:21:29,209 --> 01:21:25,219
I

1836
01:21:32,090 --> 01:21:29,219
watch her talk to this stuff and it does

1837
01:21:35,270 --> 01:21:32,100
in the sky what she wants it to

1838
01:21:37,790 --> 01:21:35,280
you it's just amazing well

1839
01:21:40,010 --> 01:21:37,800
yeah phenomenal

1840
01:21:41,570 --> 01:21:40,020
um a lot what comes to mind for you when

1841
01:21:45,410 --> 01:21:41,580
you when you hear about that or think

1842
01:21:48,169 --> 01:21:45,420
about that the Consciousness uh aspect

1843
01:21:51,470 --> 01:21:50,209
yeah sure I mean it's you know we've

1844
01:21:54,410 --> 01:21:51,480
been talking about Consciousness we've

1845
01:21:56,090 --> 01:21:54,420
been talking about how uh and source and

1846
01:21:59,990 --> 01:21:56,100
uh the interrelatedness of all things

1847
01:22:02,330 --> 01:22:00,000
and uh you know I think you as a psychic

1848
01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:02,340
media may be more attuned to this than

1849
01:22:06,590 --> 01:22:04,560
than most maybe more second nature to

1850
01:22:08,270 --> 01:22:06,600
you than the rest of us who come at it

1851
01:22:10,490 --> 01:22:08,280
from more of a materialist background

1852
01:22:12,110 --> 01:22:10,500
that we're all kind of like cancel the

1853
01:22:14,090 --> 01:22:12,120
laser pointer all looking for the UFO

1854
01:22:16,189 --> 01:22:14,100
and you know so fascinated by that but

1855
01:22:19,550 --> 01:22:16,199
but you've you've tapped into or you can

1856
01:22:21,649 --> 01:22:19,560
tap into that deeper layer and so what

1857
01:22:24,050 --> 01:22:21,659
does it mean to you or where do you find

1858
01:22:27,410 --> 01:22:24,060
the greatest source of meaning in in

1859
01:22:28,669 --> 01:22:27,420
life uh tapping into that deep deeper

1860
01:22:31,010 --> 01:22:28,679
layer you know is it through

1861
01:22:35,570 --> 01:22:31,020
relationship is it through the work that

1862
01:22:38,689 --> 01:22:37,430
I enjoyed

1863
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:38,699
the

1864
01:22:44,810 --> 01:22:42,239
how pure it is you have to be a product

1865
01:22:46,330 --> 01:22:44,820
and with good intentions because they

1866
01:22:50,350 --> 01:22:46,340
know anyway

1867
01:22:52,490 --> 01:22:50,360
and I I don't have to do any

1868
01:22:55,550 --> 01:22:52,500
rituals or anything I literally just

1869
01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:55,560
talked to them I talked to him with

1870
01:22:58,970 --> 01:22:57,360
with my heart sometimes out loud

1871
01:23:03,110 --> 01:22:58,980
sometimes in my mind

1872
01:23:05,810 --> 01:23:03,120
and they hear me it's and anybody can do

1873
01:23:08,810 --> 01:23:05,820
it and it originally started out that

1874
01:23:10,430 --> 01:23:08,820
they were they look like stars when we

1875
01:23:12,890 --> 01:23:10,440
first moved in they looked like stars

1876
01:23:14,570 --> 01:23:12,900
and I kept talking to them and asked

1877
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:14,580
them do certain things and they would

1878
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:16,320
and they did baby steps they kept

1879
01:23:21,050 --> 01:23:18,480
getting closer and closer eventually

1880
01:23:22,610 --> 01:23:21,060
they were moving our camera for us

1881
01:23:25,070 --> 01:23:22,620
because we didn't have it in the right

1882
01:23:27,290 --> 01:23:25,080
direction energy being falls down in a

1883
01:23:29,689 --> 01:23:27,300
beam stands up in front of the camera

1884
01:23:31,310 --> 01:23:29,699
grabs it and turns it and boom blinks

1885
01:23:33,890 --> 01:23:31,320
out of his goodness right in front of

1886
01:23:37,310 --> 01:23:33,900
the camera the video is on our data

1887
01:23:40,010 --> 01:23:37,320
right but you know the

1888
01:23:43,149 --> 01:23:40,020
Consciousness and everything it is a big

1889
01:23:45,950 --> 01:23:43,159
family that that's what it feels like

1890
01:23:47,330 --> 01:23:45,960
they if you're having a bad day you need

1891
01:23:48,830 --> 01:23:47,340
cheering off they will cheer you up if

1892
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:48,840
you need help and guide us they will

1893
01:23:55,070 --> 01:23:51,120
help you if you can help them they will

1894
01:23:56,330 --> 01:23:55,080
take it it's it's very interesting I

1895
01:23:57,410 --> 01:23:56,340
thought it was just you pray to

1896
01:23:58,370 --> 01:23:57,420
something and hopefully something

1897
01:24:01,070 --> 01:23:58,380
happens

1898
01:24:04,250 --> 01:24:01,080
not at all it's very much

1899
01:24:08,450 --> 01:24:04,260
like a friend or family is interesting

1900
01:24:11,630 --> 01:24:08,460
wow hear what she says do so now you

1901
01:24:13,250 --> 01:24:11,640
have an answer if I'm an alien why don't

1902
01:24:15,290 --> 01:24:13,260
I calm down and land on the White House

1903
01:24:17,209 --> 01:24:15,300
Long the first thing that would happen

1904
01:24:18,890 --> 01:24:17,219
is every military and intelligence

1905
01:24:20,930 --> 01:24:18,900
person would be wanting to come get

1906
01:24:22,910 --> 01:24:20,940
whatever they've got for technology and

1907
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:22,920
turn it into a war machine you think

1908
01:24:26,149 --> 01:24:24,000
they're going to land on the White House

1909
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,159
on and that's they know ahead of time

1910
01:24:29,810 --> 01:24:28,320
that's what would happen they're never

1911
01:24:31,310 --> 01:24:29,820
going to land on the White House long

1912
01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:31,320
because they don't care about their

1913
01:24:36,830 --> 01:24:34,140
stupid Wars and I'm not saying that all

1914
01:24:39,530 --> 01:24:36,840
of them are peace and love but it

1915
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:39,540
you'll attract what you

1916
01:24:44,209 --> 01:24:42,480
are or feel or intent

1917
01:24:46,010 --> 01:24:44,219
so

1918
01:24:48,530 --> 01:24:46,020
and I'm sure you know we're talking

1919
01:24:50,810 --> 01:24:48,540
about it like we wonder what types are

1920
01:24:53,390 --> 01:24:50,820
there any types that aren't so great

1921
01:24:57,169 --> 01:24:53,400
watching us and I think the answer is

1922
01:24:59,930 --> 01:24:57,179
yes but I think we're protected and

1923
01:25:02,810 --> 01:24:59,940
there's much more good than there is

1924
01:25:05,930 --> 01:25:02,820
anything else the reptilians woke her up

1925
01:25:08,630 --> 01:25:05,940
doing exactly what reptilians do if you

1926
01:25:13,010 --> 01:25:08,640
know what I mean and

1927
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,689
know what was going on I didn't

1928
01:25:17,689 --> 01:25:16,800
understand nobody was in

1929
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:17,699
it wasn't it shouldn't have been

1930
01:25:21,410 --> 01:25:19,679
happening all she knew that something

1931
01:25:28,729 --> 01:25:21,420
was having sex with her in the middle of

1932
01:25:35,090 --> 01:25:32,030
it was literally it felt exactly like

1933
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:35,100
the real thing and that's I wasn't shock

1934
01:25:38,930 --> 01:25:36,960
to the point where I I didn't move I

1935
01:25:41,390 --> 01:25:38,940
mean my legs were closed it was I didn't

1936
01:25:43,370 --> 01:25:41,400
understand it and then after a few

1937
01:25:46,910 --> 01:25:43,380
moments I freaked out and then it

1938
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:46,920
stopped and I kept that to myself and

1939
01:25:51,530 --> 01:25:49,440
took it for years until I met him and I

1940
01:25:53,090 --> 01:25:51,540
told him and he goes no a lot of people

1941
01:25:55,370 --> 01:25:53,100
go through that and now what you

1942
01:25:58,490 --> 01:25:55,380
described to me as a reptilian she never

1943
01:26:01,490 --> 01:25:58,500
heard of it no I never looked into it if

1944
01:26:03,290 --> 01:26:01,500
I ever saw a craft I like Deb I just go

1945
01:26:05,209 --> 01:26:03,300
okay there you go there's one it was

1946
01:26:08,330 --> 01:26:05,219
like a head I like to call it alien

1947
01:26:10,370 --> 01:26:08,340
Xanax I did not react at all and then

1948
01:26:11,689 --> 01:26:10,380
I'd have a missing time I mean I've seen

1949
01:26:14,350 --> 01:26:11,699
a craft

1950
01:26:18,290 --> 01:26:14,360
at night hiding in a cloud

1951
01:26:21,709 --> 01:26:18,300
and a helicopter shine a spotlight on it

1952
01:26:25,550 --> 01:26:21,719
and this thing was massive and I saw the

1953
01:26:26,810 --> 01:26:25,560
detail of the underbelly of it I mean it

1954
01:26:29,450 --> 01:26:26,820
was

1955
01:26:32,330 --> 01:26:29,460
I will never forget that I forget

1956
01:26:35,090 --> 01:26:32,340
everything after that I looked at it I

1957
01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:35,100
don't remember driving home I don't

1958
01:26:38,450 --> 01:26:36,960
and my friends yeah you should you tell

1959
01:26:39,890 --> 01:26:38,460
that reptilian you come in this bed

1960
01:26:45,169 --> 01:26:39,900
again you're gonna end up as a pair of

1961
01:26:50,510 --> 01:26:48,709
I mean you've yeah so I you know

1962
01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:50,520
something really weird happened in the

1963
01:26:55,370 --> 01:26:52,260
middle of I don't remember if it was Bob

1964
01:26:57,290 --> 01:26:55,380
or Lala speaking I've never had the

1965
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:57,300
computer just shut down before like

1966
01:27:02,810 --> 01:27:00,239
literally it shut the screen went black

1967
01:27:04,970 --> 01:27:02,820
the camera was still on and then that

1968
01:27:07,189 --> 01:27:04,980
went dead and I'm just like what the

1969
01:27:08,810 --> 01:27:07,199
hell just happened I was like I have

1970
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:08,820
never had that happen with my computer

1971
01:27:12,830 --> 01:27:10,800
before so

1972
01:27:14,930 --> 01:27:12,840
um that was really weird you should live

1973
01:27:17,689 --> 01:27:14,940
with her we've had batteries go good and

1974
01:27:19,729 --> 01:27:17,699
devices things shut off lights lights

1975
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:19,739
turn on and off it's just a daily

1976
01:27:24,590 --> 01:27:22,080
occurrence with her if I lived with Lala

1977
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:24,600
I would have that Apple care plan when

1978
01:27:27,950 --> 01:27:25,920
this stuff starts you know like I'm not

1979
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:27,960
paying for it now but I would yeah all

1980
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:30,000
right so let me know where we're at guys

1981
01:27:33,410 --> 01:27:31,920
because we are at an hour and a half I

1982
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:33,420
don't want to keep you over I don't

1983
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:36,239
think Deb got her topic or Matt so it's

1984
01:27:41,450 --> 01:27:38,340
up to you guys we could do quick hitters

1985
01:27:43,250 --> 01:27:41,460
if you guys want to present a a question

1986
01:27:45,229 --> 01:27:43,260
and we'll make them we'll make them like

1987
01:27:47,390 --> 01:27:45,239
rapid fire what do you want to do Nathan

1988
01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:47,400
yeah let's do some quick hitters and uh

1989
01:27:51,770 --> 01:27:49,920
okay okay since it's a time here and uh

1990
01:28:00,729 --> 01:27:51,780
you guys have been so gracious with your

1991
01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:04,790
I guess I was really interested in

1992
01:28:11,149 --> 01:28:08,400
understanding why it is the experiencers

1993
01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:11,159
tend to gravitate to each other

1994
01:28:16,250 --> 01:28:13,380
um Gary Nolan implied there might be a

1995
01:28:18,830 --> 01:28:16,260
biological imperative there that sort of

1996
01:28:22,070 --> 01:28:18,840
uh hidden to us so it's not so obvious

1997
01:28:26,570 --> 01:28:22,080
but it turns out that some people that

1998
01:28:30,050 --> 01:28:26,580
have the uh extra white matter uh in the

1999
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:30,060
caudi fatayman uh have it and then end

2000
01:28:35,330 --> 01:28:32,880
up as couples and uh it seems like

2001
01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:35,340
people who are gifted often get drawn to

2002
01:28:40,129 --> 01:28:37,440
other people who are gifted like I feel

2003
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:40,139
like this protective bond with anyone

2004
01:28:44,689 --> 01:28:43,199
who has gifts or experiences so what do

2005
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,699
you think about that

2006
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:46,320
let me just let me just say one thing

2007
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:48,719
this question is going to Matt and then

2008
01:28:55,550 --> 01:28:51,600
it'll go to Lala Bob myself and then

2009
01:29:03,770 --> 01:28:59,470
uh yeah quick answer right

2010
01:29:07,310 --> 01:29:03,780
all I can say is up to this point in my

2011
01:29:08,750 --> 01:29:07,320
life which I mean literally this exact

2012
01:29:11,629 --> 01:29:08,760
moment

2013
01:29:13,250 --> 01:29:11,639
I have always found

2014
01:29:16,850 --> 01:29:13,260
others

2015
01:29:20,450 --> 01:29:16,860
that have shared similar experiences

2016
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:20,460
and had like-minded thoughts whenever it

2017
01:29:24,050 --> 01:29:22,560
came to matters of the unknown and

2018
01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:24,060
unexplained

2019
01:29:30,470 --> 01:29:28,260
uh people that I didn't know would just

2020
01:29:32,750 --> 01:29:30,480
randomly be in situations where they

2021
01:29:34,729 --> 01:29:32,760
would open up about it

2022
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:34,739
and that has happened time and time and

2023
01:29:41,090 --> 01:29:38,639
time again I why that is what the actual

2024
01:29:43,850 --> 01:29:41,100
explanation behind it the cause I have

2025
01:29:46,970 --> 01:29:43,860
no idea but I firmly believe

2026
01:29:50,270 --> 01:29:46,980
and to my own self no

2027
01:29:52,850 --> 01:29:50,280
that experiencers uh gifted people

2028
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:52,860
whatever you want to put the label on it

2029
01:29:59,090 --> 01:29:56,880
are definitely drawn to one another and

2030
01:30:02,090 --> 01:29:59,100
something somewhere out there guides

2031
01:30:07,010 --> 01:30:04,010
thank you clearly you have an extended

2032
01:30:10,850 --> 01:30:07,020
basal ganglia would you would you

2033
01:30:14,570 --> 01:30:13,070
um you know some people think that we're

2034
01:30:16,970 --> 01:30:14,580
remembering

2035
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:16,980
seeing each other on a craft when we

2036
01:30:20,990 --> 01:30:19,199
were some were taken and we don't even

2037
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:21,000
know and it's just like we're drawing to

2038
01:30:26,270 --> 01:30:23,760
each other and I think some have

2039
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:26,280
implants and we can kind of feel it

2040
01:30:32,149 --> 01:30:29,040
without realizing it I have one in my

2041
01:30:35,030 --> 01:30:32,159
leg and one of her head and I mean I've

2042
01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:35,040
got proof it's it's weird but anyway I

2043
01:30:39,410 --> 01:30:37,440
set off metal detectors and I let them I

2044
01:30:41,450 --> 01:30:39,420
I asked to see and it's like the size of

2045
01:30:43,129 --> 01:30:41,460
rice and when we went to an airport she

2046
01:30:46,689 --> 01:30:43,139
told me ahead of time where to look on

2047
01:30:51,830 --> 01:30:46,699
the Monitor and it was right I love it

2048
01:30:56,510 --> 01:30:54,050
like a you know you feel safe with that

2049
01:31:00,470 --> 01:30:58,790
you are amongst if if you are called

2050
01:31:02,810 --> 01:31:00,480
weird I tell this to Priscilla the

2051
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:02,820
quantum witch all the time if you were

2052
01:31:06,290 --> 01:31:04,560
if you thought you're weird a people

2053
01:31:08,209 --> 01:31:06,300
told you of weird just look on the

2054
01:31:10,010 --> 01:31:08,219
screen here because we're all the you

2055
01:31:13,490 --> 01:31:10,020
know you've found your family we're all

2056
01:31:16,189 --> 01:31:13,500
that way everybody you can see here so

2057
01:31:28,629 --> 01:31:16,199
um we're you know there who defines the

2058
01:31:34,189 --> 01:31:32,570
so I believe in the end that quantum

2059
01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:34,199
mechanics it's kind of basically

2060
01:31:38,990 --> 01:31:35,760
describes the functioning of our

2061
01:31:40,490 --> 01:31:39,000
universe and I believe so people go

2062
01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:40,500
visit somebody and they have an

2063
01:31:45,530 --> 01:31:42,000
experience and they come home they have

2064
01:31:48,050 --> 01:31:45,540
a hitchhiker so all of that has said to

2065
01:31:51,649 --> 01:31:48,060
me from the beginning like Claire

2066
01:31:53,870 --> 01:31:51,659
sentience in some way that since it's

2067
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:53,880
all kind of a Quantum system when you do

2068
01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:56,400
these things and interact and we are all

2069
01:31:59,330 --> 01:31:57,840
brother and sister and we've all been

2070
01:32:01,370 --> 01:31:59,340
we've worked with each other we're

2071
01:32:04,010 --> 01:32:01,380
Quantum entangled

2072
01:32:06,229 --> 01:32:04,020
and I believe in the end my intuition

2073
01:32:09,410 --> 01:32:06,239
tells me that it's going to be a version

2074
01:32:12,350 --> 01:32:09,420
of quantum entanglement

2075
01:32:13,970 --> 01:32:12,360
I love it uh you have not washed the

2076
01:32:15,410 --> 01:32:13,980
science out of him Lala that's all I

2077
01:32:16,910 --> 01:32:15,420
have to say

2078
01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:16,920
um you know I

2079
01:32:21,770 --> 01:32:20,159
to me you know it's the universal laws

2080
01:32:25,250 --> 01:32:21,780
of attraction you know Nathan once said

2081
01:32:28,810 --> 01:32:25,260
to me because it it turns out that his

2082
01:32:31,729 --> 01:32:28,820
brother Justin had a website called

2083
01:32:35,149 --> 01:32:31,739
birthdayshoes.com that uh basically

2084
01:32:38,270 --> 01:32:35,159
reviews all kinds of zero drop and

2085
01:32:41,209 --> 01:32:38,280
natural shoes that have are the shape of

2086
01:32:44,209 --> 01:32:41,219
a foot sort of and allow you to to walk

2087
01:32:46,010 --> 01:32:44,219
and run naturally and around 2009 or

2088
01:32:47,810 --> 01:32:46,020
2010 I can't remember what year I

2089
01:32:49,669 --> 01:32:47,820
started following his website and bought

2090
01:32:52,129 --> 01:32:49,679
a whole bunch of different shoes that

2091
01:32:55,310 --> 01:32:52,139
he's reviewed and still am to this day

2092
01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:55,320
and I didn't and Nathan says it's

2093
01:33:02,750 --> 01:32:59,280
because you and I are Partners now that

2094
01:33:04,189 --> 01:33:02,760
you perused his website back then

2095
01:33:06,590 --> 01:33:04,199
so

2096
01:33:10,129 --> 01:33:06,600
I you know I know this is the Quantum

2097
01:33:13,129 --> 01:33:10,139
this is the Quantum Erasure from genre

2098
01:33:15,110 --> 01:33:13,139
so yeah or you could Deb I wish I had a

2099
01:33:16,490 --> 01:33:15,120
better answer for you the universal laws

2100
01:33:18,350 --> 01:33:16,500
of attraction

2101
01:33:19,910 --> 01:33:18,360
um Nathan is probably gonna I I'm sorry

2102
01:33:22,370 --> 01:33:19,920
that I can't entertain this question

2103
01:33:24,470 --> 01:33:22,380
certainly not better than Bob and Lala

2104
01:33:25,370 --> 01:33:24,480
and and probably not as good as Nathan's

2105
01:33:27,229 --> 01:33:25,380
about to

2106
01:33:28,970 --> 01:33:27,239
but no I mean I don't think so I think

2107
01:33:31,310 --> 01:33:28,980
he did a great job I think we are all

2108
01:33:33,410 --> 01:33:31,320
interconnected we are and we are all one

2109
01:33:36,110 --> 01:33:33,420
right as Bob talked about earlier we are

2110
01:33:38,750 --> 01:33:36,120
all part of the same thing uh kind of

2111
01:33:40,729 --> 01:33:38,760
having a a little bit of an Amnesia

2112
01:33:42,830 --> 01:33:40,739
experience that that we are in fact

2113
01:33:45,709 --> 01:33:42,840
connected in that way and so

2114
01:33:48,169 --> 01:33:45,719
synchronicity and the feeling that you

2115
01:33:52,570 --> 01:33:48,179
know this person that you're meant to be

2116
01:33:56,810 --> 01:33:52,580
with them or the these are to me just

2117
01:34:00,890 --> 01:33:56,820
hints little cracks in the in the facade

2118
01:34:02,990 --> 01:34:00,900
of the world that we think is real that

2119
01:34:07,010 --> 01:34:03,000
there is this deeper connected

2120
01:34:08,510 --> 01:34:07,020
connectivity behind it and uh I think

2121
01:34:09,950 --> 01:34:08,520
it's incredibly powerful and meaningful

2122
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:09,960
right when you start looking at the

2123
01:34:15,890 --> 01:34:13,440
world in this way uh everyone that you

2124
01:34:18,530 --> 01:34:15,900
interact with every experience that you

2125
01:34:22,430 --> 01:34:18,540
have uh you know carries a whole

2126
01:34:25,310 --> 01:34:22,440
different weight to it and ultimately it

2127
01:34:28,250 --> 01:34:25,320
means that that no one is alone right no

2128
01:34:30,890 --> 01:34:28,260
no one is is forgotten no life is Left

2129
01:34:34,070 --> 01:34:30,900
Behind you know all of the experience is

2130
01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:34,080
is one and is and and Redemption is a

2131
01:34:40,790 --> 01:34:37,520
real quality of existence

2132
01:34:42,649 --> 01:34:40,800
uh I don't know to me that's great amen

2133
01:34:45,229 --> 01:34:42,659
and it's something I need on like a

2134
01:34:47,209 --> 01:34:45,239
weekly basis Matt

2135
01:34:49,850 --> 01:34:47,219
uh

2136
01:34:55,850 --> 01:34:49,860
Lala did you have contacts on earlier

2137
01:35:01,729 --> 01:34:58,250
that was a great question thank you all

2138
01:35:03,530 --> 01:35:01,739
I have contacts on earlier man look she

2139
01:35:05,930 --> 01:35:03,540
had blue contacts on and they drive

2140
01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:05,940
drove her crazy because if you have the

2141
01:35:09,370 --> 01:35:07,760
air on and they dry it out

2142
01:35:11,629 --> 01:35:09,380
Mac

2143
01:35:13,310 --> 01:35:11,639
hey man all this talk about

2144
01:35:15,850 --> 01:35:13,320
Consciousness and reality and everything

2145
01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:15,860
I had to ask

2146
01:35:29,090 --> 01:35:27,590
kind of touched on this earlier about

2147
01:35:31,729 --> 01:35:29,100
you know aliens showing up on the

2148
01:35:35,149 --> 01:35:31,739
playhouse lawn but you know a throwback

2149
01:35:38,030 --> 01:35:35,159
to the days of the uh movie V and

2150
01:35:39,950 --> 01:35:38,040
subsequent television series if aliens

2151
01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:39,960
were to actually you know fast forward

2152
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:42,960
to the day where an alien race of any

2153
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:46,560
kind uh decides to make actual public

2154
01:35:52,189 --> 01:35:49,920
contact with humans and everything as a

2155
01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:52,199
culture would we ever

2156
01:35:59,930 --> 01:35:56,400
be able to trust and accept them uh just

2157
01:36:02,990 --> 01:35:59,940
the way we are with our own uh

2158
01:36:05,450 --> 01:36:03,000
civilization already

2159
01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:05,460
uh this question is going to La La but

2160
01:36:10,250 --> 01:36:06,960
Nathan you know why I'm trying to hold

2161
01:36:10,260 --> 01:36:16,189
Nathan's hypothesis go ahead ma'am

2162
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:19,490
I can't cause no more okay so I think

2163
01:36:23,270 --> 01:36:20,880
people

2164
01:36:25,129 --> 01:36:23,280
can't handle it I think

2165
01:36:27,530 --> 01:36:25,139
too much of a good thing would turn into

2166
01:36:30,229 --> 01:36:27,540
a bad thing for a lot of people you know

2167
01:36:31,970 --> 01:36:30,239
it's it's not you can't control this

2168
01:36:36,290 --> 01:36:31,980
kind of a situation

2169
01:36:39,350 --> 01:36:36,300
it's I don't know here you go I I I

2170
01:36:41,149 --> 01:36:39,360
think that when when they come

2171
01:36:43,189 --> 01:36:41,159
the people they're going to interact

2172
01:36:45,649 --> 01:36:43,199
with they're going to be selective yeah

2173
01:36:48,169 --> 01:36:45,659
those that are capable of handling it

2174
01:36:50,450 --> 01:36:48,179
they will interact with them those that

2175
01:36:53,209 --> 01:36:50,460
want to use them or have bad intentions

2176
01:36:54,830 --> 01:36:53,219
they will shun them and they have all

2177
01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:54,840
the power they need to do all of that

2178
01:36:58,850 --> 01:36:56,880
remember they have these wands and knock

2179
01:37:00,590 --> 01:36:58,860
people out they're just knock anybody

2180
01:37:02,330 --> 01:37:00,600
out they don't want to talk to

2181
01:37:05,209 --> 01:37:02,340
I mean we got to remember they're gonna

2182
01:37:07,129 --> 01:37:05,219
be way ahead of us and just it's just

2183
01:37:09,229 --> 01:37:07,139
silly to think we're going to take what

2184
01:37:10,970 --> 01:37:09,239
they have and use it for bad things

2185
01:37:12,890 --> 01:37:10,980
they'll just talk to the people they

2186
01:37:14,270 --> 01:37:12,900
want to she and I are trying to get

2187
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,280
ready

2188
01:37:19,729 --> 01:37:16,320
he wants to be beamed up right now I

2189
01:37:23,229 --> 01:37:21,410
I want you to come back though Bob

2190
01:37:25,970 --> 01:37:23,239
that's the part I'm worried about

2191
01:37:27,890 --> 01:37:25,980
go for a run and be brought back yeah

2192
01:37:29,990 --> 01:37:27,900
and Matt can you just restate the

2193
01:37:32,930 --> 01:37:30,000
question uh for me

2194
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:32,940
yeah with uh the human race ever come to

2195
01:37:39,169 --> 01:37:35,760
a point where they would actually accept

2196
01:37:41,930 --> 01:37:39,179
a species from another planet and trust

2197
01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:45,050
not all of us you know I that question

2198
01:37:51,530 --> 01:37:48,719
could be as diverse as humans are

2199
01:37:55,129 --> 01:37:51,540
so there are people now who don't trust

2200
01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:55,139
other of the same species

2201
01:38:00,410 --> 01:37:57,600
um you know that that say oh well this

2202
01:38:03,950 --> 01:38:00,420
person is a different color so they're

2203
01:38:06,649 --> 01:38:03,960
not me I they're not the same as me uh

2204
01:38:08,390 --> 01:38:06,659
it could be something as you know and

2205
01:38:10,970 --> 01:38:08,400
and if that isn't stupid enough maybe

2206
01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:10,980
even more stupid is this person is from

2207
01:38:14,930 --> 01:38:12,719
a different political party than me it's

2208
01:38:18,410 --> 01:38:14,940
almost like there are different uh

2209
01:38:20,209 --> 01:38:18,420
species of the other than human so you

2210
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:20,219
could only imagine that if you were to

2211
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:23,760
bring in if somebody were to land that

2212
01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:26,400
you know doesn't you know that projects

2213
01:38:32,030 --> 01:38:28,800
doesn't even speak but projects thoughts

2214
01:38:35,090 --> 01:38:32,040
as their language and is technologically

2215
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:35,100
Superior of course there's going to be

2216
01:38:39,530 --> 01:38:37,679
People Like Us who are going to be

2217
01:38:42,110 --> 01:38:39,540
celebrating and hoping that they want to

2218
01:38:43,790 --> 01:38:42,120
come and and sort of like have tea and

2219
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:43,800
maybe Bob can throw some steaks on the

2220
01:38:48,770 --> 01:38:46,560
grill uh and then there's other other

2221
01:38:51,649 --> 01:38:48,780
people that will won't want anything to

2222
01:38:55,310 --> 01:38:51,659
do with them so I I think that as

2223
01:38:57,950 --> 01:38:55,320
diverse as humans are is how diverse the

2224
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:57,960
response will be although when you look

2225
01:39:02,270 --> 01:39:00,000
at the community that you're involved in

2226
01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:02,280
that we're involved in that is we're

2227
01:39:06,530 --> 01:39:05,040
bringing together this UFO Bigfoot and

2228
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:06,540
paranormal community that we're

2229
01:39:12,530 --> 01:39:09,360
attempting to to join together I think

2230
01:39:13,850 --> 01:39:12,540
that Community to a degree and you have

2231
01:39:16,250 --> 01:39:13,860
you have Illustrated some of the

2232
01:39:17,930 --> 01:39:16,260
differences in the communities but to a

2233
01:39:19,010 --> 01:39:17,940
degree will be accepting of it but

2234
01:39:22,189 --> 01:39:19,020
beyond that

2235
01:39:24,410 --> 01:39:22,199
I don't know Nathan what do you think

2236
01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:24,420
salt and vinegar really I just can't get

2237
01:39:28,850 --> 01:39:26,880
behind that ship we're back to chips

2238
01:39:33,250 --> 01:39:28,860
again yeah oh sorry

2239
01:39:37,729 --> 01:39:36,169
uh vinegar man I just can't smell it's

2240
01:39:41,870 --> 01:39:37,739
never been good for me

2241
01:39:44,090 --> 01:39:41,880
um yeah I think um you know a lot I love

2242
01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:44,100
these answers and that for me I think in

2243
01:39:51,950 --> 01:39:47,760
some ways uh it does come back to

2244
01:39:54,350 --> 01:39:51,960
those that are ready or willing or you

2245
01:39:56,149 --> 01:39:54,360
know if the time is right you know for

2246
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:56,159
for that experience then that experience

2247
01:40:01,129 --> 01:39:58,080
will occur

2248
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:01,139
um I think that uh you know intelligent

2249
01:40:06,709 --> 01:40:03,600
beings that are you know kind of higher

2250
01:40:08,750 --> 01:40:06,719
up in the intelligence ladder from us

2251
01:40:10,129 --> 01:40:08,760
I mean they they I'd like to think they

2252
01:40:11,570 --> 01:40:10,139
know better than we we do about what

2253
01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:11,580
those interactions will look like and

2254
01:40:16,129 --> 01:40:12,960
whether or not they will be beneficial

2255
01:40:17,990 --> 01:40:16,139
for us or not beneficial for us

2256
01:40:20,270 --> 01:40:18,000
um but long as you said earlier not all

2257
01:40:22,010 --> 01:40:20,280
of them are great and all of them have

2258
01:40:25,010 --> 01:40:22,020
good intentions just like not all humans

2259
01:40:27,290 --> 01:40:25,020
are great uh so uh yeah I don't know

2260
01:40:29,149 --> 01:40:27,300
what those uh

2261
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:29,159
with this kind of Clashing of Worlds

2262
01:40:32,810 --> 01:40:30,960
with that what that would look like I

2263
01:40:34,669 --> 01:40:32,820
I'm optimistic what I would love to see

2264
01:40:38,090 --> 01:40:34,679
happen is that it catalyzed the change

2265
01:40:41,570 --> 01:40:38,100
in humanity that it kind of wake us up

2266
01:40:44,270 --> 01:40:41,580
from our Collective stupor

2267
01:40:46,850 --> 01:40:44,280
but I don't know history has not been

2268
01:40:49,729 --> 01:40:46,860
kind to us in that regard and in those

2269
01:40:51,890 --> 01:40:49,739
instances that we've had in the past

2270
01:40:55,310 --> 01:40:51,900
Ronald Reagan certainly said that he

2271
01:40:57,950 --> 01:40:55,320
believed that would happen so uh I it's

2272
01:41:00,229 --> 01:40:57,960
possible it's possible yeah I mean you

2273
01:41:02,209 --> 01:41:00,239
have to hold out hope uh

2274
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:02,219
um

2275
01:41:07,370 --> 01:41:04,560
you know it's just very difficult

2276
01:41:10,010 --> 01:41:07,380
for me when I hear

2277
01:41:12,169 --> 01:41:10,020
people will look at a person again you

2278
01:41:14,270 --> 01:41:12,179
know and I hate to bring up this example

2279
01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:14,280
of a different skin tone and say that

2280
01:41:19,010 --> 01:41:16,560
person is not like me it's like no that

2281
01:41:20,930 --> 01:41:19,020
person actually is like you it's just

2282
01:41:24,290 --> 01:41:20,940
there have a different skin tone than

2283
01:41:26,330 --> 01:41:24,300
you and so those you know I I look at it

2284
01:41:28,189 --> 01:41:26,340
through that prison but I'd I'd like I'd

2285
01:41:30,890 --> 01:41:28,199
prefer to be more hopeful as you are

2286
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:30,900
Nathan Debs

2287
01:41:37,490 --> 01:41:33,840
so what comes to mind is that we are

2288
01:41:40,669 --> 01:41:37,500
probably as alien to them as they would

2289
01:41:43,129 --> 01:41:40,679
be to us and they do not clearly fully

2290
01:41:44,930 --> 01:41:43,139
understand us because if they did they

2291
01:41:47,570 --> 01:41:44,940
would not be doing things that are scary

2292
01:41:49,729 --> 01:41:47,580
or horrific to us

2293
01:41:51,350 --> 01:41:49,739
um and they do not all of them granted I

2294
01:41:54,229 --> 01:41:51,360
have to point that out there's some that

2295
01:41:57,410 --> 01:41:54,239
are good light beings yay thumbs up but

2296
01:41:59,629 --> 01:41:57,420
let's be honest when it comes to Grays

2297
01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:59,639
like that was not a good choice

2298
01:42:04,870 --> 01:42:01,920
that was never a good choice the

2299
01:42:07,970 --> 01:42:04,880
abduction's bad choice very bad choice

2300
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:07,980
the covert behavior that might be

2301
01:42:12,649 --> 01:42:11,040
defensive is still scaring people

2302
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:12,659
um and of course A lot of people are

2303
01:42:18,770 --> 01:42:15,360
being hurt which is you know something I

2304
01:42:20,689 --> 01:42:18,780
talk about kind of often now so if they

2305
01:42:23,149 --> 01:42:20,699
want trust from us they're not making

2306
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:23,159
the decisions for that and I think that

2307
01:42:26,689 --> 01:42:25,199
they will ultimately change their

2308
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:26,699
methods

2309
01:42:30,350 --> 01:42:28,800
um especially the good guys let's just

2310
01:42:31,790 --> 01:42:30,360
you know give a thumbs up to light

2311
01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:31,800
beings again

2312
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:38,390
that was an amazing answer Deb I loved

2313
01:42:44,330 --> 01:42:41,280
it uh you had a totally different and

2314
01:42:47,149 --> 01:42:44,340
interesting perspective from us and I'm

2315
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:47,159
thinking man we we have so much uh

2316
01:42:51,290 --> 01:42:49,920
ammunition to do a part two with uh Lala

2317
01:42:54,169 --> 01:42:51,300
and Bob

2318
01:42:56,270 --> 01:42:54,179
um because I have questions to ask but

2319
01:42:58,370 --> 01:42:56,280
uh we gotta we gotta wrap it up here you

2320
01:43:01,790 --> 01:42:58,380
guys as Nathan said earlier you've been

2321
01:43:05,870 --> 01:43:01,800
uh very giving of your time

2322
01:43:08,030 --> 01:43:05,880
um and we really appreciate it so uh you

2323
01:43:09,770 --> 01:43:08,040
know final comments Bob if you have

2324
01:43:11,930 --> 01:43:09,780
anything and then we're gonna we do our

2325
01:43:13,609 --> 01:43:11,940
cabbie goodbyes so we could you could

2326
01:43:16,310 --> 01:43:13,619
come in after that or if you have

2327
01:43:18,350 --> 01:43:16,320
something you'd like to say now no I'd

2328
01:43:20,030 --> 01:43:18,360
like both of us probably would like to

2329
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:20,040
come back and one of the topics we would

2330
01:43:28,570 --> 01:43:24,239
like to tell you is about our ability to

2331
01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:28,580
use technology married with her ability

2332
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:31,920
and other stuff we know about to

2333
01:43:36,830 --> 01:43:34,800
establish a full-blown two-way

2334
01:43:38,149 --> 01:43:36,840
communication system stuff with the

2335
01:43:42,050 --> 01:43:38,159
entities

2336
01:43:43,609 --> 01:43:42,060
oh wow I mean we already wanted to have

2337
01:43:45,890 --> 01:43:43,619
you back Bob you really didn't need to

2338
01:43:47,930 --> 01:43:45,900
sweeten the pot this is like we have

2339
01:43:49,669 --> 01:43:47,940
those those egg rolls and then you put

2340
01:43:53,330 --> 01:43:49,679
the the Duck Sauce there for us to dip

2341
01:43:57,229 --> 01:43:53,340
it in you know it's really really cream

2342
01:44:02,330 --> 01:43:59,950
that's the good stuff

2343
01:44:04,609 --> 01:44:02,340
[Laughter]

2344
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:04,619
you guys are so much

2345
01:44:08,330 --> 01:44:06,480
all right let's go with cabbie goodbye

2346
01:44:09,950 --> 01:44:08,340
starting with Matt please

2347
01:44:12,290 --> 01:44:09,960
yeah uh

2348
01:44:14,510 --> 01:44:12,300
ETB to the punch on that one Bob I don't

2349
01:44:16,850 --> 01:44:14,520
know how to break the news to you uh the

2350
01:44:18,129 --> 01:44:16,860
old speaking spell and

2351
01:44:21,229 --> 01:44:18,139
you know

2352
01:44:25,729 --> 01:44:21,239
you can't you can't who is invention

2353
01:44:29,510 --> 01:44:25,739
you absolutely see it so yeah anyway and

2354
01:44:32,090 --> 01:44:29,520
uh I'm I'm uh definitely walking away

2355
01:44:34,790 --> 01:44:32,100
from this conversation with some uh

2356
01:44:37,370 --> 01:44:34,800
some Enlightenment some uh new

2357
01:44:39,229 --> 01:44:37,380
approaches to thoughts and uh ideas and

2358
01:44:42,530 --> 01:44:39,239
stuff you you really got my mind going

2359
01:44:44,510 --> 01:44:42,540
uh which is a very good thing in my

2360
01:44:46,609 --> 01:44:44,520
opinion and I appreciate you guys coming

2361
01:44:48,830 --> 01:44:46,619
on and being so open and transparent

2362
01:44:50,209 --> 01:44:48,840
with the information you know it takes a

2363
01:44:51,530 --> 01:44:50,219
lot to sit out here in front of

2364
01:44:52,910 --> 01:44:51,540
everybody and say

2365
01:44:55,370 --> 01:44:52,920
you know some of the things you've said

2366
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:55,380
and talk about these subjects and I

2367
01:44:59,870 --> 01:44:57,840
think it really uh helps out people to

2368
01:45:01,310 --> 01:44:59,880
hear these things uh especially people

2369
01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:01,320
who are going through similar

2370
01:45:08,030 --> 01:45:06,000
experiences uh and it's helped me so I

2371
01:45:10,250 --> 01:45:08,040
thank you for that I want to add just

2372
01:45:12,550 --> 01:45:10,260
just specifically for you that Lala and

2373
01:45:15,410 --> 01:45:12,560
I are part of the remote viewing

2374
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:15,420
interaction through Simeon Hein who is a

2375
01:45:20,270 --> 01:45:18,480
remote viewing teacher and the topic of

2376
01:45:22,669 --> 01:45:20,280
our little group is remote viewing

2377
01:45:25,790 --> 01:45:22,679
Bigfoot oh wow

2378
01:45:28,669 --> 01:45:25,800
and the order too we have an or yes look

2379
01:45:31,550 --> 01:45:28,679
we have been part of an org group that

2380
01:45:34,990 --> 01:45:31,560
Durant Cameron started they have been

2381
01:45:39,050 --> 01:45:35,000
the most amazing collection of beautiful

2382
01:45:41,689 --> 01:45:39,060
kind helping people that I have ever run

2383
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:41,699
into in my life and they have helped us

2384
01:45:47,209 --> 01:45:44,639
so much understand what we're doing how

2385
01:45:50,450 --> 01:45:47,219
we're going and we have been completely

2386
01:45:52,609 --> 01:45:50,460
remiss in these podcasts with not

2387
01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:52,619
thanking them for all they have done for

2388
01:45:58,970 --> 01:45:56,400
us so this is the premiere show uh we

2389
01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:58,980
will never fail to thank them and bless

2390
01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:00,960
them again

2391
01:46:06,229 --> 01:46:04,560
Namaste Namaste

2392
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:06,239
um The Light in Me sees the light in you

2393
01:46:12,410 --> 01:46:09,360
Bob and Lala uh and I just want to say

2394
01:46:15,950 --> 01:46:12,420
in the chat I want to thank you AV

2395
01:46:17,990 --> 01:46:15,960
um anonymity it looks like Gaspar 74.

2396
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:18,000
everybody else who's chimed in tonight

2397
01:46:22,370 --> 01:46:19,920
Jules obviously the queen of the chat

2398
01:46:24,649 --> 01:46:22,380
our friend and yeah thank you so much

2399
01:46:26,689 --> 01:46:24,659
you guys for for hanging in there and

2400
01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:26,699
I'm sorry we couldn't get more there's a

2401
01:46:30,410 --> 01:46:29,040
lot of material to get through and uh

2402
01:46:32,030 --> 01:46:30,420
and we didn't even get through it also

2403
01:46:34,189 --> 01:46:32,040
and that's why we'll have these guys on

2404
01:46:35,689 --> 01:46:34,199
again uh Debs if you would with your

2405
01:46:38,209 --> 01:46:35,699
cabbie goodbye please

2406
01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:38,219
well I want to say thank you so much for

2407
01:46:41,330 --> 01:46:40,080
accepting the invitation to come speak

2408
01:46:43,609 --> 01:46:41,340
with us

2409
01:46:46,129 --> 01:46:43,619
um obviously when once you're in our cab

2410
01:46:49,010 --> 01:46:46,139
you're part of the family so we have

2411
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:49,020
adopted you welcome to cab

2412
01:46:54,229 --> 01:46:52,560
um and I have a feeling that Lala and I

2413
01:46:56,750 --> 01:46:54,239
are supposed to have more conversations

2414
01:46:59,330 --> 01:46:56,760
in the future I just have a sense and by

2415
01:47:00,410 --> 01:46:59,340
the way I am in Maryland so maybe we

2416
01:47:03,470 --> 01:47:00,420
should be doing lunch and dinner

2417
01:47:06,590 --> 01:47:03,480
sometime yes let's let's meet at

2418
01:47:09,709 --> 01:47:06,600
Conrad's and have crabs

2419
01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:09,719
and Deb's data Dojo as well uh her show

2420
01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:12,960
which is also on the cab Network so

2421
01:47:18,050 --> 01:47:15,119
um Nathan man I want to go to Maryland

2422
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:18,060
to have crabs too that sounds awesome

2423
01:47:21,890 --> 01:47:19,920
um you guys have been fantastic thank

2424
01:47:23,870 --> 01:47:21,900
you so much for for your time for your

2425
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:23,880
generosity for your willingness to be

2426
01:47:30,590 --> 01:47:26,880
bold and share your experiences

2427
01:47:33,649 --> 01:47:30,600
um I I am fascinated by what you've gone

2428
01:47:35,930 --> 01:47:33,659
through and what you both bring to this

2429
01:47:38,930 --> 01:47:35,940
conversation uh you're a unique

2430
01:47:40,669 --> 01:47:38,940
combination of individuals and the fact

2431
01:47:42,669 --> 01:47:40,679
that you are willing to kind of bring

2432
01:47:45,770 --> 01:47:42,679
your whole self into this conversation

2433
01:47:47,330 --> 01:47:45,780
is uh it's really inspiring so thank you

2434
01:47:48,229 --> 01:47:47,340
so much and I'm looking forward to part

2435
01:47:50,570 --> 01:47:48,239
two

2436
01:47:52,910 --> 01:47:50,580
thank you so are we

2437
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:52,920
I was trying to play Chicago for you

2438
01:47:56,930 --> 01:47:54,719
guys I was trying to play Beginnings but

2439
01:47:59,330 --> 01:47:56,940
I didn't have this other program up and

2440
01:48:03,709 --> 01:47:59,340
running I'm gonna see if I can get it

2441
01:48:06,590 --> 01:48:03,719
um yeah I just you know I I love love

2442
01:48:09,410 --> 01:48:06,600
and it and so therefore it's just so

2443
01:48:11,689 --> 01:48:09,420
great to see you guys and uh this

2444
01:48:13,970 --> 01:48:11,699
relationship and the positivity that

2445
01:48:17,330 --> 01:48:13,980
between you guys and certainly how

2446
01:48:20,330 --> 01:48:17,340
you've inspired me us uh and everybody

2447
01:48:21,890 --> 01:48:20,340
else Bob you know obviously you're you

2448
01:48:24,830 --> 01:48:21,900
know known in the community everybody

2449
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:24,840
knows you and

2450
01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:26,639
um oh wait here it is do you guys hear

2451
01:48:30,830 --> 01:48:28,320
it now

2452
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:30,840
no maybe not

2453
01:48:34,810 --> 01:48:32,400
I'll make sure I got The Right

2454
01:48:38,450 --> 01:48:34,820
microphone on here

2455
01:48:40,629 --> 01:48:38,460
can you hear it oh okay but

2456
01:48:45,970 --> 01:48:40,639
this is

2457
01:48:51,770 --> 01:48:49,790
all right so only the beginning is uh

2458
01:48:53,330 --> 01:48:51,780
this song and very appropriate for for

2459
01:48:55,070 --> 01:48:53,340
you guys it's only the beginning of

2460
01:48:57,890 --> 01:48:55,080
everything that you'll accomplish

2461
01:49:00,050 --> 01:48:57,900
together uh once again we're honored

2462
01:49:02,330 --> 01:49:00,060
that you would come and join us uh on

2463
01:49:04,310 --> 01:49:02,340
cab and I look forward to a part two

2464
01:49:05,810 --> 01:49:04,320
where because I have more questions I

2465
01:49:08,930 --> 01:49:05,820
want to get to and get your thoughts on

2466
01:49:11,450 --> 01:49:08,940
and um you guys are just you just guys

2467
01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:11,460
just bring such a happy feeling thank

2468
01:49:18,290 --> 01:49:14,400
you so much on behalf of uh money Nathan

2469
01:49:20,930 --> 01:49:18,300
Debs Matt and myself uh we always say

2470
01:49:22,970 --> 01:49:20,940
peace out we say one love we'll see you

2471
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:22,980
down the road and as always we wonder

2472
01:49:27,530 --> 01:49:33,590
[Music]